Anyone else dreading the derby?

black mamba said:
True .......

but a draw at Wigan would have seen them home too .....

my point is that a derby defeat or two , should that happen , isn't the end of the world ..... you can still finish champions , or as near as dammit , without points from those games , depending on your consistency in your remaining league fixtures.

Although obviously it helps if you CAN get something from the derby games !
In the 2010/11 season, when we finished nine points behind them, we would have finished level on points with them (they would have won the title on goal difference) had we won both derbies. Obviously last season we did win those derbies and won it on goal difference. Those six pointers are important. Not of overriding importance but can make a huge, often critical, impact.
 
never fear the derby.

worst case scenario, we lose, weve been there before, we get over it and move on.

if we win they dont get over it. my red mates stll get all riled if i mention the two derbies under sven
 
The thing that I play over and over again in my mind is: What kind of leg-up will the Rags get from the Ref? Kompany sent off? Young throwing himself arse over tit and conning a pen out of Howie Redshirt? All things being equal they know we can beat them fair and square!
 
Skashion said:
black mamba said:
True .......

but a draw at Wigan would have seen them home too .....

my point is that a derby defeat or two , should that happen , isn't the end of the world ..... you can still finish champions , or as near as dammit , without points from those games , depending on your consistency in your remaining league fixtures.

Although obviously it helps if you CAN get something from the derby games !
In the 2010/11 season, when we finished nine points behind them, we would have finished level on points with them (they would have won the title on goal difference) had we won both derbies. Obviously last season we did win those derbies and won it on goal difference. Those six pointers are important. Not of overriding importance but can make a huge, often critical, impact.

It presumes that all other results stay the same which I dont think is true. In some respects I thought that the 1-6 gave United a real kick up the backside and was at least part of the reason why they had such a good run up to Christamas.

I also think that teams react to the results of their rivals. If we hadnt lost to Arsenal in April I think it would have been much less likely that they would lose at Wigan. There definitely seemed to be a element of "its in the bag" in their performance that night.

In some seasons the big games are decisive, in others they aren't. Like the year United had a lousy record against the top teams but took 58 points out of 60 off of the bottom 10 to win the title.

For me the key issue isnt which games teams lose its how they, and their rivals, respond after those defeats.
 

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