Are You Officially Priced Out Yet, Or Almost?

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

Been away so not seen the other 40 odd pages but I do not blame City for the prices. I blame Sky and the so called FFP rules we have in europe and the premier league.

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Really, ?? Why do people never seem to blame the club for anything. City set the prices, no one else, we don't have to charge these prices at all. It's just another excuse. As has been said and I keep repeating we could let everyone in for free and it would make no difference to our revenue. Bayern are the best example they charge 110 quid for season tickets and cheap match day tickets. Making 2 m is nothing to them, they see football as a game for everyone to watch not just the few who can now afford it. Yet somehow they manage to win. Everything, offer high wages, have the best players. The club are greedy and it's no one
Else's fault.

 

[blueparrot]

Been away so not seen the other 40 odd pages but I do not blame City for the prices. I blame Sky and the so called FFP rules we have in europe and the premier league.

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Really, ?? Why do people never seem to blame the club for anything. City set the prices, no one else, we don't have to charge these prices at all. It's just another excuse. As has been said and I keep repeating we could let everyone in for free and it would make no difference to our revenue. Bayern are the best example they charge 110 quid for season tickets and cheap match day tickets. Making 2 m is nothing to them, they see football as a game for everyone to watch not just the few who can now afford it. Yet somehow they manage to win. Everything, offer high wages, have the best players. The club are greedy and it's no one
Else's fault.

'Letting everyone in for free would make no difference to our revenue ' is just about the most ridiculous thing I've seen on here.

 

[Anonymous]

Sad fact of life unfortunately, but I'm nearing the tipping point cost wise. I reckon I might get a good run at it for the next 5 years but after that it could be Cityzen membership and a day out to the odd game as and when the fiscal outlook is favourable.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

People blaming FFP or Sky don't get it. The blame lies with (mainly) the clubs and then us fans.

Ticket revenue only forms a small part of the revenue stream for the big clubs. Less than 15% in our case and that includes corporate & hospitality income. So a 10% increase in ticket prices represents just over a 1% increase in total revenue and even less than that in the case of the ordinary match going fan. So it's completely insignificant in the wider scheme of things.

But clubs now see it as a revenue stream that needs to be maximised and so they apply economic theory to it. The Glazers were the first to do this. There are two core economic principles that apply, which are supply-and-demand and price elasticity. Put together, these can be described as price optimisation.

The law of supply and demand says that the more scarce a commodity is, the higher the demand (and therefore the greater the price that the supplier can demand). Price elasticity measures how sensitive demand is to a change in price. A commodity described as 'price inelastic' is one where demand is not significantly impacted by price increases. Football is relatively price inelastic and the Glazers put up prices to the point where demand just started to fall below supply. Obviously supply in football terms is pretty fixed so one side of the equation is taken care of.

There are 47,000 seats at the Etihad currently (although that's going up soon) but we're already used to away fans not taking their full allocation and not even selling the one they do take.

But we're also to blame as unless we demonstrate that there is a price level at which we are not prepared to buy tickets then the club will never know when the tipping point has been reached. We've done that for away games but are we prepared to do it for home games?

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

People blaming FFP or Sky don't get it. The blame lies with (mainly) the clubs and then us fans.

Ticket revenue only forms a small part of the revenue stream for the big clubs. Less than 15% in our case and that includes corporate & hospitality income. So a 10% increase in ticket prices represents just over a 1% increase in total revenue and even less than that in the case of the ordinary match going fan. So it's completely insignificant in the wider scheme of things.

But clubs now see it as a revenue stream that needs to be maximised and so they apply economic theory to it. The Glazers were the first to do this. There are two core economic principles that apply, which are supply-and-demand and price elasticity. Put together, these can be described as price optimisation.

The law of supply and demand says that the more scarce a commodity is, the higher the demand (and therefore the greater the price that the supplier can demand). Price elasticity measures how sensitive demand is to a change in price. A commodity described as 'price inelastic' is one where demand is not significantly impacted by price increases. Football is relatively price inelastic and the Glazers put up prices to the point where demand just started to fall below supply. Obviously supply in football terms is pretty fixed so one side of the equation is taken care of.

There are 47,000 seats at the Etihad currently (although that's going up soon) but we're already used to away fans not taking their full allocation and not even selling the one they do take.

But we're also to blame as unless we demonstrate that there is a price level at which we are not prepared to buy tickets then the club will never know when the tipping point has been reached. We've done that for away games but are we prepared to do it for home games?

This pretty much sums up the reality of it.

 

[moomba]

Would love to see some positive action on pricing from all fans. Staged walkout, or late arrival to show the suits and tv viewers what football is like without the supporters.

Too many people with an "I'm alright jack" attitude for it to work though.

I do believe the supporters play a huge role in the marketability and sponsorship of the league and its clubs. But we allow ourselves to be walked over.

 

[chris85mcfc]

Would love to see some positive action on pricing from all fans. Staged walkout, or late arrival to show the suits and tv viewers what football is like without the supporters.

Too many people with an "I'm alright jack" attitude for it to work though.

I do believe the supporters play a huge role in the marketability and sponsorship of the league and its clubs. But we allow ourselves to be walked over.

I'm pretty sure a large section of fans are already doing something similar around the 87th minute mark

 

[RACHACE]

People blaming FFP or Sky don't get it. The blame lies with (mainly) the clubs and then us fans.

Ticket revenue only forms a small part of the revenue stream for the big clubs. Less than 15% in our case and that includes corporate & hospitality income. So a 10% increase in ticket prices represents just over a 1% increase in total revenue and even less than that in the case of the ordinary match going fan. So it's completely insignificant in the wider scheme of things.

But clubs now see it as a revenue stream that needs to be maximised and so they apply economic theory to it. The Glazers were the first to do this. There are two core economic principles that apply, which are supply-and-demand and price elasticity. Put together, these can be described as price optimisation.

The law of supply and demand says that the more scarce a commodity is, the higher the demand (and therefore the greater the price that the supplier can demand). Price elasticity measures how sensitive demand is to a change in price. A commodity described as 'price inelastic' is one where demand is not significantly impacted by price increases. Football is relatively price inelastic and the Glazers put up prices to the point where demand just started to fall below supply. Obviously supply in football terms is pretty fixed so one side of the equation is taken care of.

There are 47,000 seats at the Etihad currently (although that's going up soon) but we're already used to away fans not taking their full allocation and not even selling the one they do take.

But we're also to blame as unless we demonstrate that there is a price level at which we are not prepared to buy tickets then the club will never know when the tipping point has been reached. We've done that for away games but are we prepared to do it for home games?

Great post. Can I ask where you stand on the debate? Is it too pricey or should fans be grateful and dig deeper?

 

[moomba]

Would love to see some positive action on pricing from all fans. Staged walkout, or late arrival to show the suits and tv viewers what football is like without the supporters.

Too many people with an "I'm alright jack" attitude for it to work though.

I do believe the supporters play a huge role in the marketability and sponsorship of the league and its clubs. But we allow ourselves to be walked over.

I'm pretty sure a large section of fans are already doing something similar around the 87th minute mark

Ha ha. Stands full of revolutionaries we have.

 

[Gundogan's Moustache]

With me not living on the mainland i manage to get to 5/6 games a season but will be cut down to 2/3 if prices stay the same.
Flight to Manchester £60
Match day Ticket £47 ( Stoke for Example)
Food , Drink , Small Bet On the Game , Buses , Program £30
At Least one night stay £40
Flight Home £60
£233 for one game