Arsenal fans celebrations.....

[bluestevei]

We would've done exactly the same in their position. We are a scalp now and we need to man up and face it head on

Your spot on. Arsenal deserved to beat us and their fans have evey right to celebrate. Its just the saddo element of their support who seem to think that they are somehow more morally better than us that grates. One of the biggest reason for the inequality of finance in the premier league is this idea that the top 4 get so much more money than the others. Something which Arsenal whilst never winning it have taken full advantage of.

Sorry to correct you here, but we have won the Premier League 3 times.

You have a point about the inequality in finance, but that goes back a lot further than the Premier League. There used to be the self styled big 5 (Liverpool, Everton, United,Spurs and Arsenal). Those clubs were wealthier than the rest for a variety of reasons, but not to the extent that clubs like Forest,West Ham,Derby or Villa couldn't build competitive teams.

Even though I support one of the original big clubs I think the Premiership and Sky have done more bad than good for the English game as a whole.

What I can't understand is when City or Chelski fans use it as a moral justification for what they have done since their respective takeovers. Mansour and Abramovich have made it even more of an impossibility for the majority of clubs to enjoy any degree of success.

The emergence of City and Chelski hasn't really hurt United or Arsenal. United still win stuff and we are still up there. What the Arab and the Russian did kill is any remaining aspirations the rest of the clubs in the league had. They have also caused wage inflation which has been fed down into ticket prices at the expense of all football fans.

now i might be daft, but im sure our ticket prices are well below arsenal and we are spending money on players, just think what a ticket will cost if arsenal bought some players

 

[Mark - TheBlue]

now that is a cracking enterprise the owners have going there, 57,000 weekly mugs prepared to dig deep for no success or even a modicum of trying to be successful. Unless you counting qualifying for the chumps league as success.

You lot have a strange sense of logic:

1) you take the piss out of the fact our fans pay the highest ticket prices in the country - has it ever dawned on you that without the inflationary impact Abramovich and Mansour have had on players wages the level of ticket prices would be lower across the board?

2) you deride us for having no success - you are one place and 10 points ahead of us in the league. You were already 10 points ahead of us after 5 matches. In other words the worst Arsenal team in 20 years has won as many points over the last 27 matches as the best City team in history.

You have won 1 FA Cup in 40 odd years and are about to lose the league title to your local rivals. Those of you spouting arrogant tripe on the back of those facts never ever deserve to call United fans arrogant again.

Apologies to the sensible majority, but some of you still have a small club mentality. On the evidence of the performances your players put in at the Emirates over the last three years since you won the Abu Dhabi lottery so do they.

09 - 10 Arsenal 0 v Man C 0 - one of the most negative performances I have seen by any team in years,

10 - 11 Arsenal 0 v Man C 0 - as above. City parked the bus and got lucky AFC hit the woodwork 3 times.

11 - 12 Arsenal 1 v Man C - a negative City side played off the park.

Contrast with how Arsenal played at the Etihad for the corresponding seasons ( 2-4 defeat, 3-0 win and 0 - 1 defeat). Every single time we came out to play football the right way.

Some of you act as if you already have achieved something courtesy of your windfall. You haven't. Until you do I suggest some of you learn a little humility and to accept there are football clubs in this world who deserve as much respect as Mansour City 2009.

Sorry to rant.

"Mansour City"

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Blaming us for you paying high ticket prices is a bit pathetic. Our manager is more defensive minded at times so that explains the poor showing at the Emirates playing defensively regardless of what has been spent is not a crime in face the point helped when we needed to finish top 4. Also stop looking for credit for loosing at our place "but playing the right way" you lost. Didn't we also knock you out of the Carling cup as well? You can win the Moral Finance cup every year and loose at our ground every year in the future playing the "right way" if you like.

 

[Skashion]

Wow, we're responsible for ticket price inflation? You'd have thought ticket prices have only been going up since 2004 according to these idiotic Arsenal fans. The reality is that it's the TV money and necessity of competing with the top teams in Europe like Real and Barcelona who have their own TV deals. I know you're bitter that City have upset the established order but it's no excuse for absurd arguments.

 

[gooner6729]

Repect is a 2 way thing.
There are not many fans who would applaud the opposition team off the pitch,you lot have short memories which appear to only go back to when we got the funds and dare challenge your position in the league.
Go onto glory-glory your argurments will stack up better on there

I think any City fan who has been around for a while would tell you they have always been treated in a friendly and respectful manner bu their Gooner counterparts. There were never the level of condescending comments about City from Arsenal as there seem to be the other way round now. That was despite the fact that we inhabited a different universe to you whereas now you happen to be marginally better than us courtesy of limitless outside funding.

Thats whats wound me up in this thread, and the reason I might have overstepped the mark for which I apologise to the majority.

 

[LoveCity]

Every single time we came out to play football the right way.

How patronising can a set of supporters get? Be it about money or how to play football, you're an odious lot.

Have you supported Arsenal a long time? Do you sing "1-0 to the Arsenal" and understand the meaning behind it?

Because if you do and hold those beliefs, Arsenal played football the "wrong way" for nearly 10 years under George Graham.

 

[mancityscot]

Really fucking hate Arsenal now. Bunch of spiteful and deluded fans who think they will win the league each year. you have played well, lately but you have had an easy run of fixtures and rely on van persie almost every single game. you are a 1 man team for almost every game of the season. Now i'm no great fan of spurs but they are a proper london club with a loyal fanbase, not a bunch of plastic prawn sandwich munchers like yourselves. Hope you never win a trophy and i hope spurs steal every single part of the limelight in north london and beat you to 3rd place. as no one deserves it less than you rats

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

Sorry to correct you here, but we have won the Premier League 3 times.

You have a point about the inequality in finance, but that goes back a lot further than the Premier League. There used to be the self styled big 5 (Liverpool, Everton, United,Spurs and Arsenal). Those clubs were wealthier than the rest for a variety of reasons, but not to the extent that clubs like Forest,West Ham,Derby or Villa couldn't build competitive teams.

Even though I support one of the original big clubs I think the Premiership and Sky have done more bad than good for the English game as a whole.

What I can't understand is when City or Chelski fans use it as a moral justification for what they have done since their respective takeovers. Mansour and Abramovich have made it even more of an impossibility for the majority of clubs to enjoy any degree of success.

The emergence of City and Chelski hasn't really hurt United or Arsenal. United still win stuff and we are still up there. What the Arab and the Russian did kill is any remaining aspirations the rest of the clubs in the league had. They have also caused wage inflation which has been fed down into ticket prices at the expense of all football fans.

But it was OK for you to do it when you were one of the wealthy clubs I suppose?

Dickhead

I might be a dickhead, but at least I understand basic economics. We generate more money than any club in the country bar United. That suggests we are one of the wealthy clubs by the definition used by any business in the world.

Income is income, no matter how it is generated.

Wealthy TV companies and property deals and several rich people on your board with lots of wealthy fans in a wealthy and one of the biggest cities in the world.

Wealthy TV Companies, investments by external companies and a rich person on our board with lots of less wealthy fans in one of the poorer areas of a city that is shunned in favour of the big one your club lives in due to biased governments.

no difference, you're just jealous and bitter because it isn't you and you lot fucked up when you had a great core of players.

 

[T_Bone]

Wow, we're responsible for ticket price inflation? You'd have thought ticket prices have only been going up since 2004 according to these idiotic Arsenal fans. The reality is that it's the TV money and necessity of competing with the top teams in Europe like Real and Barcelona who have their own TV deals. I know you're bitter that City have upset the established order but it's no excuse for absurd arguments.

Woah. Skashion, you absolutely clever ****.You don't even have to go

 

[GStar]

I think any City fan who has been around for a while would tell you they have always been treated in a friendly and respectful manner by their Gooner counterparts.

There were never the level of condescending comments about City from Arsenal as there seem to be the other way round now. That was despite the fact that we inhabited a different universe to you...

You've made a point and disproved it all within the space of a single post.

 

[LoveCity]

I think any City fan who has been around for a while would tell you they have always been treated in a friendly and respectful manner bu their Gooner counterparts.

Yes, when we were that hopelessly average club who always guaranteed you an easy match each year. Now your fans are amongst the most bitter towards us. Go on your message boards or look at some of the stuff on Twitter - even United fans post less obscene things as your lot do.

That includes in recent days one of your following wishing a plane crash on Kompany and the team.

Not to mention the relentless attacks on Nasri, including death threats.

And now Clichy is getting it despite his harmonious exit from Arsenal.

It's OK when Arsenal signs a player - they aren't betraying their club - but when a good player leaves Arsenal they're a money hungry mercenary... Hleb and Flamini are two others who got abuse.