Arsenal fans celebrations.....

LongsightM13 said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
gooner6729 said:
We buy them with money we earned rather than handouts.
Err, not quite. If we're talking about benefactors, you were a mid-table fairly skint club in the mid 1990's until Danny Fiszman pumped in £50m to fund player purchases. Your recent fortunes started then and that's what allowed you to get 3 PL titles. £50m in 1994 is about the same as £400m now so you have no moral high ground I'm afraid. Fiszman did for you EXACTLY what the Sheikh is doing for us.
Even their own legend Tony Adams recently admitted the club would be nowhere today without Fiszman's investment


Would that be the same mid table mid 90s Arsenal who won the league in 89 and 91, two domestic cups in 93 and a European trophy in 94 with a largely home grown team? Your comparison really doesn't add up does it.
 
LongsightM13 said:
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/fiszman-was-real-reason-arsenal-did-so-well-says-adams-2319483.html

Fiszman was real reason Arsenal did so well, says Adams
Former Gunners stalwart explains why money always counts when it comes to winning titles

He notes that among the most significant changes since his previous visit has been the death in April of Danny Fiszman, the diamond merchant who joined the board in 1992 and helped finance Wenger's Double-winning teams of 1998 and 2002.

Those calling for more spending on the current team will be interested to learn how highly Adams rated Fiszman's contribution. "I think that a significant factor, 90 per cent, in why we achieved so much is that Danny Fiszman invested £50m in the club and we were able to go to the next level," he said. "I got my first decent contract at the club, so did David Seaman, we were able to bring in Dennis Bergkamp – and that was before Arsène arrived – David Platt, Patrick Vieira, Nicolas Anelka, and were able to pay them – top players from around the world.

"I'd like to feel that a good manager can get the best out of those players once you've got them, but more often than not, if you've got the best players you win the League," he added. "And more important than that, if you've got the best defensive record you win the League. Fact."


Priceless find.
 
bluevengence said:
I bet the Arsenal share holders fookin love fans
like this gooner twatard......They are taking the piss with
the highest season tickets in Europe whislt filling their
personal bank accounts,whereas our owners are pumping
Billions of pounds of their own money into City and the comunity

what a deluded knobheaded Tarquin


I must say I do enjoy the cliche insults , Tarquin, prawn sandwiches . Lol
 
Are Arsenal in danger of adopting the Liverpool History Syndrome? Obviously they have a right to be challenging for the title after 15 years of slugging it out for it. I mean, the standard of their play has fuck all to do with it. The table does indeed lie a lot. They didn't get the rub of the green on far too many occasions this year. Nothing to do with the fact that, although they have good books, they've bought shite. Nowt to do with that. At all.

I may have cheered more loudly than an Arse fan when they beat Liverpool to the title in 89. We just wanted them off their perch. Everyone hates a winner. But everybody hates a sanctimonious winner too. So fuck off.
 
stony said:
gooner6729 said:
The emergence of City and Chelski hasn't really hurt United or Arsenal. United still win stuff and we are still up there. What the Arab and the Russian did kill is any remaining aspirations the rest of the clubs in the league had. They have also caused wage inflation which has been fed down into ticket prices at the expense of all football fans.

But you said this at the start of the thread ?

gooner6729 said:
The two main reasons we haven't won anything in that time are Roman Abramovich and Sheikh Mansour. Good luck to you and Chelski, but looking down your nose at a self sufficient club says a lot about you.

Make your mind up Tarquin.

Tarquin eh? As I'm a guest on your forum I'll resist the temptation to call you by a stereotype in return.

How do my two statements contradict one another? Had it not been for Abramovich and Mansour we'd probably have a few more pots in the cabinet. I think everyone would agree with that.

We haven't really been hurt though because we've managed to hang on in the top 4. That means we've been able to generate the funds to keep the club competitive in the long term.

Not sure how thats difficult to understand.
 
TurkeyGiblets said:
bluevengence said:
I bet the Arsenal share holders fookin love fans
like this gooner twatard......They are taking the piss with
the highest season tickets in Europe whislt filling their
personal bank accounts,whereas our owners are pumping
Billions of pounds of their own money into City and the comunity

what a deluded knobheaded Tarquin


I must say I do enjoy the cliche insults , Tarquin, prawn sandwiches . Lol


Here`s another one ...FOOK OFF YOU PLASTIC GLORY HUNTING BROMLEY RAG CNUT
 
gooner6729 said:
stony said:
gooner6729 said:
The emergence of City and Chelski hasn't really hurt United or Arsenal. United still win stuff and we are still up there. What the Arab and the Russian did kill is any remaining aspirations the rest of the clubs in the league had. They have also caused wage inflation which has been fed down into ticket prices at the expense of all football fans.

But you said this at the start of the thread ?

gooner6729 said:
The two main reasons we haven't won anything in that time are Roman Abramovich and Sheikh Mansour. Good luck to you and Chelski, but looking down your nose at a self sufficient club says a lot about you.

Make your mind up Tarquin.

Tarquin eh? As I'm a guest on your forum I'll resist the temptation to call you by a stereotype in return.

How do my two statements contradict one another? Had it not been for Abramovich and Mansour we'd probably have a few more pots in the cabinet. I think everyone would agree with that.

We haven't really been hurt though because we've managed to hang on in the top 4. That means we've been able to generate the funds to keep the club competitive in the long term.

Not sure how thats difficult to understand.
That's the Arse's Holy Grail, to qualify for the Champs League to get cash
 
Lucky13 said:
LongsightM13 said:
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/fiszman-was-real-reason-arsenal-did-so-well-says-adams-2319483.html

Fiszman was real reason Arsenal did so well, says Adams
Former Gunners stalwart explains why money always counts when it comes to winning titles

He notes that among the most significant changes since his previous visit has been the death in April of Danny Fiszman, the diamond merchant who joined the board in 1992 and helped finance Wenger's Double-winning teams of 1998 and 2002.

Those calling for more spending on the current team will be interested to learn how highly Adams rated Fiszman's contribution. "I think that a significant factor, 90 per cent, in why we achieved so much is that Danny Fiszman invested £50m in the club and we were able to go to the next level," he said. "I got my first decent contract at the club, so did David Seaman, we were able to bring in Dennis Bergkamp – and that was before Arsène arrived – David Platt, Patrick Vieira, Nicolas Anelka, and were able to pay them – top players from around the world.

"I'd like to feel that a good manager can get the best out of those players once you've got them, but more often than not, if you've got the best players you win the League," he added. "And more important than that, if you've got the best defensive record you win the League. Fact."


Priceless find.

Great find allot of fans like to think they have the moral high ground cause of money its pathetic. When they try and seek credit as well for not winning anything but for not spending anything like they want a medal or something (lol)
 
The annoying thing is that if Arsenal team had performed yesterday as our two guests have on this board we would still be in the hunt for the title.
 

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