Chippy_boy
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Agreed. Idiotic defending.
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Dribble
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Looool :-)
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Just beautiful.
foggy1974
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the second image when David is marginly onside, the camera image is from this side, where as the Linesman is looking straight at David and cannot see the defender.I came on this thread to show how Silva was *definitely* offside, and I have to say I am surprised.
He is in fact offside, but it is much closer than I thought. And taking this "when did Fernandino actually play the ball" question into account, it varies from *just* off, to quite clearly off, depending on whether you go for the moment of first contact with Ferna's boot, or a tiny bit later than that. Either which way, Silva was off.
This is *before* Fernandino kicks the ball. Silva is on, but Ferna hasn't touched the ball yet. You can just make out his right boot peaking out from behind his left leg as he prepares to play the ball.
This is the first point Ferna touches the ball. Notice the ball has not moved yet. Silva is already (very marginally) off.
This is the point the ball clearly moves. Silva is even further off.
And finally, this is the point they choose to freeze the frame. The ball has long departed from Ferna's boot, and of course Silva is even more off by then.
The point though, is it was mighty close. A travesty of a refereeing decision, it was NOT.
jimmygrimblesboots
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Another game were we were not at our best and yet we could and should have a won by six , our final ball was poor and that saved the Goons from a proper good hiding ,seems churlish to criticise this team , we are playing breathtaking football and i can't see anybody stopping us , pundits are saying its early days blah , blah , blah , but Pep has now got the premier league worked out , he was never going to turn this club around within 12 months , he needed to assess the squad and get the players he wanted. We would have to have a horrendous run of injuries and dodgy refereeing decisions to fail this season , so i won't be doing a Dipper and printing the T-shirts just yet
prestonibbo_mcfc
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Laughing my head off, here.
manimanc
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About time soft decisions went our way, had enough of refs taking the piss out of us.
Swings and roundabouts.
Swings and roundabouts.
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people are looking at the stripe in the grass and judging silva and the last defender , maybe he was onside and the lino could see that ,he looked well off live on the telly
Bluemoon dan
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It just shows how tough it is to be a linesman. I'm in the lower tier of the East Stand pretty much directly in line with that and we were actually laughing as we thought he was miles offside. To see how marginal it actually was is quite suprising.
prestonibbo_mcfc
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Did you see when Carragher and Neville tried it. Got everyone wrong. Yet still have the gaul to call out officials, whether they are right or wrong.
Someone on Twitter said it was like he was taking his dog for a walk:)
Trevor Morley's Tache
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Pep on Wenger’s whinge: “the penalty was a penalty, the offside was offside but we won because we were better"
I would love to see both managers side by side in post match press conferences, just to watch wengers reaction to this, totally spot on and to the point quote.
I imagine his head would internally combust.
Not many have. It's an odd one because it's not all mere clarification - under law 12 the bit about the keeper throwing an object at the ball changes it from an indirect free kick to direct, which, mid-season, is very unusual.
http://static-3eb8.kxcdn.com/documents/375/115048_250917_Circular_11_2017_v1.0_EN.pdf
goat boy
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Ive watched the offside call a few times now, what strikes me is this: the ball forward is a push rather than a ping. Dave is moving quicker than the ball, which is unusual for a through ball, and is what made him look miles off against a slower moving defensive line.
Weird that we'r on the right side of the marginal stuff, ill give you that...
Weird that we'r on the right side of the marginal stuff, ill give you that...
Grassland Blue
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I initially thought that DS was offside by some distance.I came on this thread to show how Silva was *definitely* offside, and I have to say I am surprised.
He is in fact offside, but it is much closer than I thought. And taking this "when did Fernandino actually play the ball" question into account, it varies from *just* off, to quite clearly off, depending on whether you go for the moment of first contact with Ferna's boot, or a tiny bit later than that. Either which way, Silva was off.
This is *before* Fernandino kicks the ball. Silva is on, but Ferna hasn't touched the ball yet. You can just make out his right boot peaking out from behind his left leg as he prepares to play the ball.
This is the first point Ferna touches the ball. Notice the ball has not moved yet. Silva is already (very marginally) off.
This is the point the ball clearly moves. Silva is even further off.
And finally, this is the point they choose to freeze the frame. The ball has long departed from Ferna's boot, and of course Silva is even more off by then.
The point though, is it was mighty close. A travesty of a refereeing decision, it was NOT.
The more I look at it, the more I think that he was level with the last defender, so on.
We have had some terrible decisions made against us over the years, so let's be satisfied that if there was an error of judgement in our favour, it is not before time.
Also what about the penalty shout which was waved away?
Swings and roundabouts Mr.Bean!
Chippy_boy
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I am a bit of a numpty on the offside rule, so forgive me. But, what's not in doubt is that Jesus is in an offside position throughout. Before, during and after the ball was kicked, he's always in an offside position.
Isn't he therefore offside when he receives the ball and becomes active?
Isn't he therefore offside when he receives the ball and becomes active?