They had a very topsy turvey season last time round. I have written them off for the past 4 years bu they always finish in the top 4. Surely this is the year they drop out. Although I would settle for them finishing above the rags. Don't mind arsenal as a club. Definitely prefer them to spurs.
Arsenal thread 2012/13
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Lordeffingham
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Regarding Arsenal fans, Jealousy is one thing, bitterness another, and being backed into a corner again something completely different.
Some fans have a belief that their Club have some 'God given' right to always be at the very top, and that their heritige is enough for this standing to continue indeffinitely.
Some fans have had it rough for a long, long time, when other have been lavished with success on a regular basis.
I personally believe what Arsene Wenger has tried to achieve is very commendable and the fact Arsenal as a Club have tried to show that a model of financial stability can still be adhered to whilst continuing to challenge at the top table, is something to be admired.
However, if finacial prudence is achieved at the cost of success in respect of trophies, it cannot be viewed as anything other than failure, the whole point in surviving as a Football Club is to achieve success and not to balance the books or make a profit.
I know that in recent years financial might seems to have risen to new levels, but in fairness, it is not really any different from the way Football has always worked since the 1800's.
I recently heard a very balanced Arsenal fan talking on 'Talk Shite' who gave an example of this, when saying that it was Arsenals financial might in the 1930's that made them the huge success they were around that time, and football chairmen have always had to accept that Footballing success is directly linked to the amount of money they are prepared to spend, we all know that you can't have one without the other unless you are are incredibly lucky with a brilliant batch of Youth team players that come through at the same time, and then go on to fulfill their potential at senior level as with, it pains me to say it, the Rags 'golden generation'.
I have for over 30 years had to accept that City could not compete financially with the top ten Clubs in this Country, and I know it's hard to stomach when your tallent is regularly stripped by wealthier or by Clubs with money that they are willing to splash, but times change and if Clubs are not prepared to match what others stake, then like it or not they will fall further behind and not achieve competetiveness or success as a result.
Making a profit is never really what a Football Club should be about, it would be an ideal if both success and profit could both be achieved, but the model cannot be sustained except over a very short period, I saw the downside of this first hand at our Club when Peter Swales tried to impliment a wage limit, whilst other Clubs were doing the reverse, and I can assure you that money in the bank isn't worth anything in footballing terms.
Arsenal are still potentially a Great Club, but if they don't completely overhall their model, then failure and falling further and further down the pecking order will be the only certain outcome.
I do feel for Arsenal and it's genuine fans, and appreciate all the current turmoil at their Club these days, and hope for footballs sake they do have a complete change of direction and vision, but if this doesn't happen fairly quickly I fear what they have done and built up under Wenger over the past 2o years will count for nothing, and a Great Arsenal will be a thing of the past.
Some fans have a belief that their Club have some 'God given' right to always be at the very top, and that their heritige is enough for this standing to continue indeffinitely.
Some fans have had it rough for a long, long time, when other have been lavished with success on a regular basis.
I personally believe what Arsene Wenger has tried to achieve is very commendable and the fact Arsenal as a Club have tried to show that a model of financial stability can still be adhered to whilst continuing to challenge at the top table, is something to be admired.
However, if finacial prudence is achieved at the cost of success in respect of trophies, it cannot be viewed as anything other than failure, the whole point in surviving as a Football Club is to achieve success and not to balance the books or make a profit.
I know that in recent years financial might seems to have risen to new levels, but in fairness, it is not really any different from the way Football has always worked since the 1800's.
I recently heard a very balanced Arsenal fan talking on 'Talk Shite' who gave an example of this, when saying that it was Arsenals financial might in the 1930's that made them the huge success they were around that time, and football chairmen have always had to accept that Footballing success is directly linked to the amount of money they are prepared to spend, we all know that you can't have one without the other unless you are are incredibly lucky with a brilliant batch of Youth team players that come through at the same time, and then go on to fulfill their potential at senior level as with, it pains me to say it, the Rags 'golden generation'.
I have for over 30 years had to accept that City could not compete financially with the top ten Clubs in this Country, and I know it's hard to stomach when your tallent is regularly stripped by wealthier or by Clubs with money that they are willing to splash, but times change and if Clubs are not prepared to match what others stake, then like it or not they will fall further behind and not achieve competetiveness or success as a result.
Making a profit is never really what a Football Club should be about, it would be an ideal if both success and profit could both be achieved, but the model cannot be sustained except over a very short period, I saw the downside of this first hand at our Club when Peter Swales tried to impliment a wage limit, whilst other Clubs were doing the reverse, and I can assure you that money in the bank isn't worth anything in footballing terms.
Arsenal are still potentially a Great Club, but if they don't completely overhall their model, then failure and falling further and further down the pecking order will be the only certain outcome.
I do feel for Arsenal and it's genuine fans, and appreciate all the current turmoil at their Club these days, and hope for footballs sake they do have a complete change of direction and vision, but if this doesn't happen fairly quickly I fear what they have done and built up under Wenger over the past 2o years will count for nothing, and a Great Arsenal will be a thing of the past.
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£126...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/jul/14/arsenal-premier-league-ticket-126
Over half the price of my lads junior to watch one Cat A game at the gooners...
Worthy of one of these.......
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/jul/14/arsenal-premier-league-ticket-126
Over half the price of my lads junior to watch one Cat A game at the gooners...
Worthy of one of these.......
Carver
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Or 6 of these £125 seats will buy you the most expensive Adult Platinum seasoncard (i.e. you can watch all home games) at the Etihad next season
St Helens Blue (Exiled)
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looking like the dippers are sniffing after Walcott now..
Fuck me...Arsenal really have become a selling club...
Never mind hey gooners...At least you have the glory of having the most expensive seats in the prem!!
Fuck me...Arsenal really have become a selling club...
Never mind hey gooners...At least you have the glory of having the most expensive seats in the prem!!
M18CTID
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LoveCity said:
Source please LC? I can't see 20,000 not renewing but would be amusing if that was the case ;)