Arsenal Thread - 2022/23

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Jack Hackett said:
That‘s not a fair comparison. After 2004, we had to finance the building of the new stadium and that necessarily constricted our spending for some years thereafter and we couldn’t compete for the best players in the transfer market. Wenger did well in winning 3 titles when you consider he was significantly outspent by Manchester United in that time. One of the most significant factors in determining likely league success is the amount spent on the squad. There’s a distinct correlation between how much is spent and where you finish in the league as we’ve seen with United, Chelsea and yourselves. Of course, money spent isn’t everything. You need to spend wisely and have a top manager also.
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You need an owner with ambition. Wenger would sing the American owner’s tunes and pocket 20 million a year. At same time deflect all this by sport washing slurs against us. Cant stand that French prick.
 
LesBleuMiserable said:
You need an owner with ambition. Wenger would sing the American owner’s tunes and pocket 20 million a year. At same time deflect all this by sport washing slurs against us. Cant stand that French prick.
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For most of that time the Kroenkes have since made it clear they were reluctant to invest heavily in the team when they had a significant minority shareholder in Usmanov. Since gaining overall control and taking the company private they have been more ambitious in their spending but still have to comply with FFP. Our strength in depth is still inadequate for a concerted title challenge which is why we will struggle if we make no signings in this transfer window. By comparison it’s notable that last night you could bring £160m of talent off the bench in Grealish and Mahrez. We are over achieving at the moment given our aim this season is to secure top 4. If you read my posts this season I always thought City were favourites for the title because of your experience and squad strength. Hopefully we can hold onto second place if we do fall away.
 
Jack Hackett said:
That‘s not a fair comparison. After 2004, we had to finance the building of the new stadium and that necessarily constricted our spending for some years thereafter and we couldn’t compete for the best players in the transfer market. Wenger did well in winning 3 titles when you consider he was significantly outspent by Manchester United in that time. One of the most significant factors in determining likely league success is the amount spent on the squad. There’s a distinct correlation between how much is spent and where you finish in the league as we’ve seen with United, Chelsea and yourselves. Of course, money spent isn’t everything. You need to spend wisely and have a top manager also.
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Wenger shopped in the bargain basement at Arsenal. Anelka, Vieira, Pires, Henry were all signed for modest fees. In many ways buying Anelka for 500k and selling for 20m literally bought the club a new training ground. Plus it was Ferguson and Man United always breaking transfer records. Wenger was notorious for being tight and not wanting to spend. Cesc, RVP, Adebayor purchased for 4m combined, sold for 75m. Anelka bought for 500k, sold for 20m in 1999. The amount of times he sold players for multiples of 10-20 times what he paid is a long list.

Its also incredible how you try to portray Pep as this down on his luck up against the odds manager who need to use all his intellect to overcome the 'odds'. The odds are always in Pep's favour. Your squad is jacked with individuals who cost 50m plus. Pep's always had the rolly royce jobs. Inheriting the Barcelona team than won the CL a few years prior with Rijkaard, then to Bayern were its probably more difficult to come 2nd than 1st. And yes the modern premier league is competitive, but you still have the edge over the rest, bar United.

Top manager. But lets face it, he has never known adversity of budget restraints, the set backs of players getting cherry picked, having to sell to buy ect. He has never had a conversation that goes like this. Pep "I want to buy this player" Chairmen: "Sorry Pep, we dont have the resources"
 
Goone0304 said:
Wenger shopped in the bargain basement at Arsenal. Anelka, Vieira, Pires, Henry were all signed for modest fees. In many ways buying Anelka for 500k and selling for 20m literally bought the club a new training ground. Plus it was Ferguson and Man United always breaking transfer records. Wenger was notorious for being tight and not wanting to spend. Cesc, RVP, Adebayor purchased for 4m combined, sold for 75m. Anelka bought for 500k, sold for 20m in 1999. The amount of times he sold players for multiples of 10-20 times what he paid is a long list.

Its also incredible how you try to portray Pep as this down on his luck up against the odds manager who need to use all his intellect to overcome the 'odds'. The odds are always in Pep's favour. Your squad is jacked with individuals who cost 50m plus. Pep's always had the rolly royce jobs. Inheriting the Barcelona team than won the CL a few years prior with Rijkaard, then to Bayern were its probably more difficult to come 2nd than 1st. And yes the modern premier league is competitive, but you still have the edge over the rest, bar United.

Top manager. But lets face it, he has never known adversity of budget restraints, the set backs of players getting cherry picked, having to sell to buy ect. He has never had a conversation that goes like this. Pep "I want to buy this player" Chairmen: "Sorry Pep, we dont have the resources"
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Fuck off bargain basement, you bought 11m Henry when our record buy was Lee Bradbury at 3m and your wage bill along with the Rags was the highest in the League. There’s always been a correlation, highest wages win the most trophies, it’s not rocket science.
 
Teams just haven't sussed out how to play them yet. They've got a young team with pace and have been quite fortunate. They could possibly do it this year as a result. But we also need to stop putting in lacklustre performances like Everton if we're going to compete.
 
Goone0304 said:
Wenger shopped in the bargain basement at Arsenal. Anelka, Vieira, Pires, Henry were all signed for modest fees. In many ways buying Anelka for 500k and selling for 20m literally bought the club a new training ground. Plus it was Ferguson and Man United always breaking transfer records. Wenger was notorious for being tight and not wanting to spend. Cesc, RVP, Adebayor purchased for 4m combined, sold for 75m. Anelka bought for 500k, sold for 20m in 1999. The amount of times he sold players for multiples of 10-20 times what he paid is a long list.

Its also incredible how you try to portray Pep as this down on his luck up against the odds manager who need to use all his intellect to overcome the 'odds'. The odds are always in Pep's favour. Your squad is jacked with individuals who cost 50m plus. Pep's always had the rolly royce jobs. Inheriting the Barcelona team than won the CL a few years prior with Rijkaard, then to Bayern were its probably more difficult to come 2nd than 1st. And yes the modern premier league is competitive, but you still have the edge over the rest, bar United.

Top manager. But lets face it, he has never known adversity of budget restraints, the set backs of players getting cherry picked, having to sell to buy ect. He has never had a conversation that goes like this. Pep "I want to buy this player" Chairmen: "Sorry Pep, we dont have the resources"
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I'm sorry but Wenger is a piss poor manager. Had the best players at Arsenal for pretty much a decade and won very little with them.
 
Has anybody noticed that the wife beating Mr DT from Arsenal Fan TV is back tweeting again after serving prison time for kidnapping his ex. Think he has a video out soon.
 
Goone0304 said:
Wenger shopped in the bargain basement at Arsenal. Anelka, Vieira, Pires, Henry were all signed for modest fees. In many ways buying Anelka for 500k and selling for 20m literally bought the club a new training ground. Plus it was Ferguson and Man United always breaking transfer records. Wenger was notorious for being tight and not wanting to spend. Cesc, RVP, Adebayor purchased for 4m combined, sold for 75m. Anelka bought for 500k, sold for 20m in 1999. The amount of times he sold players for multiples of 10-20 times what he paid is a long list.

Its also incredible how you try to portray Pep as this down on his luck up against the odds manager who need to use all his intellect to overcome the 'odds'. The odds are always in Pep's favour. Your squad is jacked with individuals who cost 50m plus. Pep's always had the rolly royce jobs. Inheriting the Barcelona team than won the CL a few years prior with Rijkaard, then to Bayern were its probably more difficult to come 2nd than 1st. And yes the modern premier league is competitive, but you still have the edge over the rest, bar United.

Top manager. But lets face it, he has never known adversity of budget restraints, the set backs of players getting cherry picked, having to sell to buy ect. He has never had a conversation that goes like this. Pep "I want to buy this player" Chairmen: "Sorry Pep, we dont have the resources"
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Ah the old ‘adversity’ Arsenal and their fans have faced over the last few years.

Finishing 8th… poor souls, not sure how their fanbase has remained so loyal… oh.

Your squad is quickly becoming laced with 30 / 40 million pound signings. Let’s not mention Pepe.
 
Goone0304 said:
Wenger shopped in the bargain basement at Arsenal. Anelka, Vieira, Pires, Henry were all signed for modest fees. In many ways buying Anelka for 500k and selling for 20m literally bought the club a new training ground. Plus it was Ferguson and Man United always breaking transfer records. Wenger was notorious for being tight and not wanting to spend. Cesc, RVP, Adebayor purchased for 4m combined, sold for 75m. Anelka bought for 500k, sold for 20m in 1999. The amount of times he sold players for multiples of 10-20 times what he paid is a long list.

Its also incredible how you try to portray Pep as this down on his luck up against the odds manager who need to use all his intellect to overcome the 'odds'. The odds are always in Pep's favour. Your squad is jacked with individuals who cost 50m plus. Pep's always had the rolly royce jobs. Inheriting the Barcelona team than won the CL a few years prior with Rijkaard, then to Bayern were its probably more difficult to come 2nd than 1st. And yes the modern premier league is competitive, but you still have the edge over the rest, bar United.

Top manager. But lets face it, he has never known adversity of budget restraints, the set backs of players getting cherry picked, having to sell to buy ect. He has never had a conversation that goes like this. Pep "I want to buy this player" Chairmen: "Sorry Pep, we dont have the resources"
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Wenger was a bargain basement manager in the same way that Klopp is a shoestring manager.

The Anelka training ground story is a similar PR spin to "the Coutinho money." Wenger was managing the second richest club, and was second most successful, but managed to spin the fact that everyone knew United were the richest into a tale of financial woe.

When Wenger's team was at its peak, only United had a wage bill that was higher. There were even press articles after the Invincibles year, which quoted the club saying that it had overstretched financially and would have to start reducing the wage bill - which they did for a year.

After that Chelsea's spending outdid everyone, but by the mid 00s Arsenal were still neck and neck with United in terms of wages (£90m to £93m), whereas the average team in the PL spent less than half that (City's wage bill the same season was £36m).
 
www.independent.co.uk

Fiszman was real reason Arsenal did so well, says Adams

Former Gunners stalwart explains why money always counts when it comes to winning titles
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Wenger is the biggest hypocrite and one of the most disgusting whores in world football.
Fizmans millions bankrolled his titles, yet the **** was happy to cry poor and point the stick at us when we came onto the scene and took up their god given right to the top 4
 
BlueMoonday said:
Has anybody noticed that the wife beating Mr DT from Arsenal Fan TV is back tweeting again after serving prison time for kidnapping his ex. Think he has a video out soon.
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Honestly, I don’t get this fascination on here with AFTV and their rent a gob ‘pundits’. Most Arsenal fans treat it rightly either by ignoring it or with contempt. It’s not popular with the players or the club. In fact, many fans are openly hostile to it. I never watch it because it’s piss poor and boring so don’t assume Arsenal fans are avid followers of AFTV…quite the opposite though I do recognise it’s become a bit of a cult following amongst other clubs’ fans.
 
BLUE THUNDER said:
www.independent.co.uk

Fiszman was real reason Arsenal did so well, says Adams

Former Gunners stalwart explains why money always counts when it comes to winning titles
www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk

Wenger is the biggest hypocrite and one of the most disgusting whores in world football.
Fizmans millions bankrolled his titles, yet the **** was happy to cry poor and point the stick at us when we came onto the scene and took up their god given right to the top 4
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No one has a god given right to top 4 as we have seen but historically Arsenal have always been regarded as one of the top 3 clubs in English football. Only United and Liverpool have won more league titles so it’s wrong to assume we owe it all to Wenger.
 
Jack Hackett said:
Honestly, I don’t get this fascination on here with AFTV and their rent a gob ‘pundits’. Most Arsenal fans treat it rightly either by ignoring it or with contempt. It’s not popular with the players or the club. In fact, many fans are openly hostile to it. I never watch it because it’s piss poor and boring so don’t assume Arsenal fans are avid followers of AFTV…quite the opposite though I do recognise it’s become a bit of a cult following amongst other clubs’ fans.
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AFTV are now irrelevant and are past their shelf life especially with Arsenal doing well.

I was just mentioning the cheek of somebody to be back on the scene, taking the moral high ground with his "analysis" as if he's not served a time in prison for Kidnapping his ex.
 
Jack Hackett said:
No one has a god given right to top 4 as we have seen but historically Arsenal have always been regarded as one of the top 3 clubs in English football. Only United and Liverpool have won more league titles so it’s wrong to assume we owe it all to Wenger.
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Henry Norris says hi
 
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