Arsenal Thread - 2022/23

[halfcenturyup]

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Tears for Fears.

Start of the Breakdown.

 

[LesBleuMiserable]

That‘s not a fair comparison. After 2004, we had to finance the building of the new stadium and that necessarily constricted our spending for some years thereafter and we couldn’t compete for the best players in the transfer market. Wenger did well in winning 3 titles when you consider he was significantly outspent by Manchester United in that time. One of the most significant factors in determining likely league success is the amount spent on the squad. There’s a distinct correlation between how much is spent and where you finish in the league as we’ve seen with United, Chelsea and yourselves. Of course, money spent isn’t everything. You need to spend wisely and have a top manager also.

You need an owner with ambition. Wenger would sing the American owner’s tunes and pocket 20 million a year. At same time deflect all this by sport washing slurs against us. Cant stand that French prick.

 

[Jack Hackett]

You need an owner with ambition. Wenger would sing the American owner’s tunes and pocket 20 million a year. At same time deflect all this by sport washing slurs against us. Cant stand that French prick.

For most of that time the Kroenkes have since made it clear they were reluctant to invest heavily in the team when they had a significant minority shareholder in Usmanov. Since gaining overall control and taking the company private they have been more ambitious in their spending but still have to comply with FFP. Our strength in depth is still inadequate for a concerted title challenge which is why we will struggle if we make no signings in this transfer window. By comparison it’s notable that last night you could bring £160m of talent off the bench in Grealish and Mahrez. We are over achieving at the moment given our aim this season is to secure top 4. If you read my posts this season I always thought City were favourites for the title because of your experience and squad strength. Hopefully we can hold onto second place if we do fall away.

 

[Jack Hackett]

Tears for Fears.

Start of the Breakdown.

Thanks

 

[skillman]

Got Leicester written all over them. They aint dropping points.

Leicester won the league with 81 points. That was enough in 2015/16 but not now. A higher standard has been set.

 

[Goone0304]

That‘s not a fair comparison. After 2004, we had to finance the building of the new stadium and that necessarily constricted our spending for some years thereafter and we couldn’t compete for the best players in the transfer market. Wenger did well in winning 3 titles when you consider he was significantly outspent by Manchester United in that time. One of the most significant factors in determining likely league success is the amount spent on the squad. There’s a distinct correlation between how much is spent and where you finish in the league as we’ve seen with United, Chelsea and yourselves. Of course, money spent isn’t everything. You need to spend wisely and have a top manager also.

Wenger shopped in the bargain basement at Arsenal. Anelka, Vieira, Pires, Henry were all signed for modest fees. In many ways buying Anelka for 500k and selling for 20m literally bought the club a new training ground. Plus it was Ferguson and Man United always breaking transfer records. Wenger was notorious for being tight and not wanting to spend. Cesc, RVP, Adebayor purchased for 4m combined, sold for 75m. Anelka bought for 500k, sold for 20m in 1999. The amount of times he sold players for multiples of 10-20 times what he paid is a long list.

Its also incredible how you try to portray Pep as this down on his luck up against the odds manager who need to use all his intellect to overcome the 'odds'. The odds are always in Pep's favour. Your squad is jacked with individuals who cost 50m plus. Pep's always had the rolly royce jobs. Inheriting the Barcelona team than won the CL a few years prior with Rijkaard, then to Bayern were its probably more difficult to come 2nd than 1st. And yes the modern premier league is competitive, but you still have the edge over the rest, bar United.

Top manager. But lets face it, he has never known adversity of budget restraints, the set backs of players getting cherry picked, having to sell to buy ect. He has never had a conversation that goes like this. Pep "I want to buy this player" Chairmen: "Sorry Pep, we dont have the resources"

 

[the talisman]

I’ve never seen anyone on here say Pep is down on his luck and against the odds.
His record though is astonishing, and he has earned the top jobs on merit.

 

[Bluemanc100]

Ten out of ten
For the ones who defend
Pretend too
Breakdown is a final demand
We stand firm with our head in our hands
As we love to to cry
Half alive
Is this the start of the breakdown?
I can't understand you

Great tune.. Saw them on tour when the Hurting was out..

 

[hammocity]

Wenger shopped in the bargain basement at Arsenal. Anelka, Vieira, Pires, Henry were all signed for modest fees. In many ways buying Anelka for 500k and selling for 20m literally bought the club a new training ground. Plus it was Ferguson and Man United always breaking transfer records. Wenger was notorious for being tight and not wanting to spend. Cesc, RVP, Adebayor purchased for 4m combined, sold for 75m. Anelka bought for 500k, sold for 20m in 1999. The amount of times he sold players for multiples of 10-20 times what he paid is a long list.

Its also incredible how you try to portray Pep as this down on his luck up against the odds manager who need to use all his intellect to overcome the 'odds'. The odds are always in Pep's favour. Your squad is jacked with individuals who cost 50m plus. Pep's always had the rolly royce jobs. Inheriting the Barcelona team than won the CL a few years prior with Rijkaard, then to Bayern were its probably more difficult to come 2nd than 1st. And yes the modern premier league is competitive, but you still have the edge over the rest, bar United.

Top manager. But lets face it, he has never known adversity of budget restraints, the set backs of players getting cherry picked, having to sell to buy ect. He has never had a conversation that goes like this. Pep "I want to buy this player" Chairmen: "Sorry Pep, we dont have the resources"

Fuck off bargain basement, you bought 11m Henry when our record buy was Lee Bradbury at 3m and your wage bill along with the Rags was the highest in the League. There’s always been a correlation, highest wages win the most trophies, it’s not rocket science.

 

[Metal Biker]

Teams just haven't sussed out how to play them yet. They've got a young team with pace and have been quite fortunate. They could possibly do it this year as a result. But we also need to stop putting in lacklustre performances like Everton if we're going to compete.