Arsenal Thread - 2022/23

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No one has a god given right to top 4 as we have seen but historically Arsenal have always been regarded as one of the top 3 clubs in English football. Only United and Liverpool have won more league titles so it’s wrong to assume we owe it all to Wenger.
I was just making the point that Wenger is a hypocrite
The top 3 clubs in England -“historically “
One has one league title in 33 years the other hasn’t won the league for 10 years and the bronze medalist of the “big 3” won most of their titles in the 1930’s plus a couple late 40’s early 50’s.And has come up empty handed the last 19 years.
Past History, yes. They can keep dwelling on that. Modern history NO, not big 3 by a number of measures. You know full well who’s taking up that spot on the podium.
And we’re just warming up too.
 
Honestly, I don’t get this fascination on here with AFTV and their rent a gob ‘pundits’. Most Arsenal fans treat it rightly either by ignoring it or with contempt. It’s not popular with the players or the club. In fact, many fans are openly hostile to it. I never watch it because it’s piss poor and boring so don’t assume Arsenal fans are avid followers of AFTV…quite the opposite though I do recognise it’s become a bit of a cult following amongst other clubs’ fans.
How do you know if you never watch it?
 
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ah yes... driving force in the bribery and corruption that got arsenal into the top flight... later banned from the game for making illegal inducement payments to prospective players.


What a wholesome club they are!
 
Wenger shopped in the bargain basement at Arsenal. Anelka, Vieira, Pires, Henry were all signed for modest fees. In many ways buying Anelka for 500k and selling for 20m literally bought the club a new training ground. Plus it was Ferguson and Man United always breaking transfer records. Wenger was notorious for being tight and not wanting to spend. Cesc, RVP, Adebayor purchased for 4m combined, sold for 75m. Anelka bought for 500k, sold for 20m in 1999. The amount of times he sold players for multiples of 10-20 times what he paid is a long list.

Its also incredible how you try to portray Pep as this down on his luck up against the odds manager who need to use all his intellect to overcome the 'odds'. The odds are always in Pep's favour. Your squad is jacked with individuals who cost 50m plus. Pep's always had the rolly royce jobs. Inheriting the Barcelona team than won the CL a few years prior with Rijkaard, then to Bayern were its probably more difficult to come 2nd than 1st. And yes the modern premier league is competitive, but you still have the edge over the rest, bar United.

Top manager. But lets face it, he has never known adversity of budget restraints, the set backs of players getting cherry picked, having to sell to buy ect. He has never had a conversation that goes like this. Pep "I want to buy this player" Chairmen: "Sorry Pep, we dont have the resources"
Another one of those absurd comments suggesting that Pep "could never hack it as manager at Burnley." Well I don't think Leonardo Da Vinci was any good at painting garden sheds. Pep didn't inherit the Barcelona team he developed it, starting with the B team. Messi has described him as a genius.
 
ah yes... driving force in the bribery and corruption that got arsenal into the top flight... later banned from the game for making illegal inducement payments to prospective players.


What a wholesome club they are!
You forgot to mention poaching Herbert Chapman from Huddersfield and bankrolling them to their first ever trophy.
 
Wenger shopped in the bargain basement at Arsenal. Anelka, Vieira, Pires, Henry were all signed for modest fees. In many ways buying Anelka for 500k and selling for 20m literally bought the club a new training ground. Plus it was Ferguson and Man United always breaking transfer records. Wenger was notorious for being tight and not wanting to spend. Cesc, RVP, Adebayor purchased for 4m combined, sold for 75m. Anelka bought for 500k, sold for 20m in 1999. The amount of times he sold players for multiples of 10-20 times what he paid is a long list.

Its also incredible how you try to portray Pep as this down on his luck up against the odds manager who need to use all his intellect to overcome the 'odds'. The odds are always in Pep's favour. Your squad is jacked with individuals who cost 50m plus. Pep's always had the rolly royce jobs. Inheriting the Barcelona team than won the CL a few years prior with Rijkaard, then to Bayern were its probably more difficult to come 2nd than 1st. And yes the modern premier league is competitive, but you still have the edge over the rest, bar United.

Top manager. But lets face it, he has never known adversity of budget restraints, the set backs of players getting cherry picked, having to sell to buy ect. He has never had a conversation that goes like this. Pep "I want to buy this player" Chairmen: "Sorry Pep, we dont have the resources"
Just 2 outfield players started the Rijkard final in 2006 and the Guardiola final in 2009. He transformed that Barcelona team, who'd finished below Villareal the year before, in a matter of months, becoming the first manager ever to win a continental treble in his first season.

It is an utter myth that he inherited an all-conquering outfit.

By the way, in the last 5 years Arsenal's net transfer spend has been £440m, whilst City's has been £214m.

 
No one has a god given right to top 4 as we have seen but historically Arsenal have always been regarded as one of the top 3 clubs in English football. Only United and Liverpool have won more league titles so it’s wrong to assume we owe it all to Wenger.
Historically the world was flat, the Sun orbited the earth and Rome was a great empire. Means fuck all today
 
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