Arsenal Thread - 2022/23

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TonyM said:
If I was an Arsenal fan if be hoping that they stick with the original plan.
22/23 - finish in the top 4 - complete
23/24 - consolidate top 4 position - in progress (youd hope that they are going to address any gaps this summer)
24/25 - challenge for the title and win a cup
25/26 - win the title.

Imo if they set an expectation to win the title next season they are doomed to failure and Arteta will be gone.

Success usually comes from long term planning and losing is as important as winning.
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Very good post Tony. I mean, what you posted is what you would have called a textbook plan by Edu and Arteta, and that would have been the type of timescale your talking here, hence why trying to sign young players and have the team grows together to peak in a couple of years.

Having a title challenge this season was just way ahead of schedule. We surprised ourselves, never mind everyone else, because deep down we knew we didn't have the squad for it yet.

Don't get me wrong, once in that position, we should have dealt with it better, don't think anyone would try and deny that. But it is what it is, and at the very least the guys now have experience of pressure and what it takes to challenge at the top end of the league.

I just need to laugh at some of the idiots on social media and that wanting Arteta sacked. It's just attention seeking morons, with no concept of what it takes to build a team / club up. You don't sack a manager who's got the club on an upward trajectory FFS. You think about change when that's run its course and you start to go downwards.
 
The media have gone for the Gunners throat and gone with bottlers , The media are a horrible bunch of cockwombles.I hate it when they do it to us and dont like when they are harsh to other likable clubs.

The truth is arsenal had a valent shot this year and had a right to get carried away but they will learn as Liverpool did and come back stronger. I feel they ll do good in CL and bounce back, moreso for their fans. If anything its strengthened their fanbase and made them believe again. Only a few players are needed to boost the squad and they will be buzzing!

The scum and Liverpool are way off them, Chelsea and Spurs have fallen too far to catch up....unless Pochi does some miracle work next year. Newcastle like themselves need to tweek with some smart investments and they will be competing.
 
ali benarbia's studs said:
The media have gone for the Gunners throat and gone with bottlers , The media are a horrible bunch of cockwombles.I hate it when they do it to us and dont like when they are harsh to other likable clubs.

The truth is arsenal had a valent shot this year and had a right to get carried away but they will learn as Liverpool did and come back stronger. I feel they ll do good in CL and bounce back, moreso for their fans. If anything its strengthened their fanbase and made them believe again. Only a few players are needed to boost the squad and they will be buzzing!

The scum and Liverpool are way off them, Chelsea and Spurs have fallen too far to catch up....unless Pochi does some miracle work next year. Newcastle like themselves need to tweek with some smart investments and they will be competing.
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Arsenal aren't Leicester or Fulham. They are one of red tops and they have spent a fckin fortune. They bottled it big style
 
Kippax77 said:
What a fantastic season Arsenal have had is the narrative from the media.
Yeah OK.
They spent big bucks to move up 3 places in the league, and we're still throwing money at it in January.
Failed in all the cup competitions and even lost an 8 pt lead in the Premier league.
Have took 7 pts from the last available 24 and we're apparently in a title race as they did.
That form is really poor and quite embarrassing when put up as a title challenge.
But hey the media says they've had a fantastic season so they must have.
Obviously silverware counts for jackshit these days, so a very well done to Arsenal FC
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Boom! Fckin nailed it
 
Kippax77 said:
What a fantastic season Arsenal have had is the narrative from the media.
Yeah OK.
They spent big bucks to move up 3 places in the league, and we're still throwing money at it in January.
Failed in all the cup competitions and even lost an 8 pt lead in the Premier league.
Have took 7 pts from the last available 24 and we're apparently in a title race as they did.
That form is really poor and quite embarrassing when put up as a title challenge.
But hey the media says they've had a fantastic season so they must have.
Obviously silverware counts for jackshit these days, so a very well done to Arsenal FC
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Surely Ric can afford to give £20 for post of the day?
 
GunnerGer said:
Very good post Tony. I mean, what you posted is what you would have called a textbook plan by Edu and Arteta, and that would have been the type of timescale your talking here, hence why trying to sign young players and have the team grows together to peak in a couple of years.

Having a title challenge this season was just way ahead of schedule. We surprised ourselves, never mind everyone else, because deep down we knew we didn't have the squad for it yet.

Don't get me wrong, once in that position, we should have dealt with it better, don't think anyone would try and deny that. But it is what it is, and at the very least the guys now have experience of pressure and what it takes to challenge at the top end of the league.

I just need to laugh at some of the idiots on social media and that wanting Arteta sacked. It's just attention seeking morons, with no concept of what it takes to build a team / club up. You don't sack a manager who's got the club on an upward trajectory FFS. You think about change when that's run its course and you start to go downwards.
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Hahaha little Arsenal
 
schfc6 said:
Good on you mate.

I personally don’t believe you bottled it so to speak. Lost your nerve maybe, suffered at the wrong time.
If you have bottled it, I don’t understand why United & Liverpool haven’t?
No one is saying Liverpool’s arsed dropped after they choked last season..

After the scandalous derby result the raggies were 3 points behind us if I’m not mistaken. They’re nearly 20 points behind us now..
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You can be as nice as you like but 9 points from 24 is bottling it, especially when they were 2-0 up in 2 of those games and were playing bottom of the league relegation certainties in another.
 
GunnerGer said:
Very good post Tony. I mean, what you posted is what you would have called a textbook plan by Edu and Arteta, and that would have been the type of timescale your talking here, hence why trying to sign young players and have the team grows together to peak in a couple of years.

Having a title challenge this season was just way ahead of schedule. We surprised ourselves, never mind everyone else, because deep down we knew we didn't have the squad for it yet.

Don't get me wrong, once in that position, we should have dealt with it better, don't think anyone would try and deny that. But it is what it is, and at the very least the guys now have experience of pressure and what it takes to challenge at the top end of the league.

I just need to laugh at some of the idiots on social media and that wanting Arteta sacked. It's just attention seeking morons, with no concept of what it takes to build a team / club up. You don't sack a manager who's got the club on an upward trajectory FFS. You think about change when that's run its course and you start to go downwards.
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Sometimes teams get promoted from lower divisions too quickly and when in the big time they cant handle it. I wonder if we challenged for the title too early, there was no progression or baby steps, no one saw it coming. Our highest placed finish under Arteta was 5th, and we hadnt played in the CL. Then all of a sudden we are top with 10 games to go. I think we realy way too much on Saka, Martinelli, Odegaard and Saliba. ages 20, 21, 24, 21 respectively.

The nucleas is there. I think this season we are getting two starting midfielders. Rice will likely be one according to the bookmakers, and potentially Caicedo, or if not him then another. I think we will target a striker and Jesus can double as a striker and RW to lighten Saka's burden. I think the reports are true and we will spend aorund 250m on around 5 players. I can see Nketiah, ESR, TIerney and Balogun all leaving and raising easily over 100m.
 
Gingers Dad said:
Arsenal aren't Leicester or Fulham. They are one of red tops and they have spent a fckin fortune. They bottled it big style
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Victims of the hype which engulfed them.
When they were beaten by CITY that was when the doubts must have set in for Arsenal.
If you are winning game after game without much trouble, it must have come as something of a shock when they got trampled over by a CITY stampede. So their confidence would have dropped a few notches.
In previous matches Arses probably put more effort in than they needed to also, which contributed towards them 'running out of steam' at a time when they needed to maintain performance.
Arsenal put as much effort as they had into their season and in the end it wasn't enough. They were a 2 1/2 mile horse in a 3 mile race.
 
Boo or Boo-urns said:
The media were using Zinchenko and Jesus as sticks to poke/goad Pep into admitting selling them was a mistake (See Jaded Sanchez as another example at Dortmund), and constant commentary reminders that Arsenal now have "title winners" in their first eleven.

When it came to the "crunch" time, it was the both of them that were found well short, one of them spaffed too soon, following it up with pitch histrionics and tears, so many tears, and the other sucked all the goals out of the team.

Title winners according to the UK journo's, and also thanks to captain Ødegaard for another "assist" to the opposition for Forest's goal that confirmed our title without having to kick another ball.

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Pep mentioned the other day, when talking of the sales of the three seniors, that:
”We were all agreed.” City don’t buy/sell on a whim, they give every transaction serious consideration.
 
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