Arsenal Thread | 2024/25

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Alan Harper's Tash said:
That was just the hors d’oeuvre. Check this one out later in the same game.

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Not sure who he cautioned at the end there, but it looked like the Watford player rather than the goalkeeper. Bizarre if so.

As for the corner incident, he is correct for insisting on the corner flag being replaced, and probably correct for cautioning her for removing it a second time - albeit he wasn't watching when she removed it first time.

It seemed she wanted to remove the flag because she couldn't place the ball on the right (from our perspective) of the flag, because of the water. She can't move the flag, because she can't kick with her left foot!

If the red card was solely for the corner incident, it seems very harsh. Maybe the player triggered it by calling him a **** or something.

Both incidents looked like straight reds though, and from those brief clips, it definitely looked as though he wasn't entirely impartial.
 
domalino said:
I actually disagree with you on what Villa should do. Duran has scored 12 league goals in 55 appearances (admittedly a lot of the bench, but that’s also when most of the goals have come).

He’s not a £70m striker. He *might* become a £100m striker, but today, he’s not worth £70m.

Watkins on the other hand is their starting striker, has gotten 47 goals and assists in his last 60 PL games going back to the start of last season. He’s the reason they’re in the CL this season, he’ll be the reason they go deep in it this year if they do, and they need him to have a hope of getting back in the top 5 so they get CL money next year.

Sell Duran all day. Especially as they’ve got PSR restrictions. This would get rid of that, allowing them to keep their best XI and let them buy a couple more starting quality players in the summer.
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Good points.

Personally I think Duran would score more goals given the run of games although he fucked himself over by getting sent off against Newcastle when he did get into the side. He's a very good player, I think they should of held onto him considering he's only 21 he could have been their main striker for the next ten years.

Right now Ollie Watkins is a much better all round player he offers alot more off with his movement and his unselfishness, He's a proper team player. I just think they'd be mad not to accept an offer from Arsenal, He's 29 years of age and they'll never get offered this type of money for him again, His next contract is basically his last one.

Poor from Arsenal this late in the window to be putting in an offer, Part of me thinks they are just doing it to keep the fans off their back in regards to signing a centre forward make it look like they are active in the market. Plus it's giving Aston Villa no time at all to get a replacement in the door.
 
The Watkins bid is an opportunity singing if it happens. Villa's wage turnover is close to 100% of turnover. Its no secret they need to balcne it out a little.

As for the surprie Arsenal have bid this much. Ive been saying it for a long time the Kroenke's have become very good owners ever since they got full ownership of the club. We have so many fans stuck in 2012 who think 'the Kroenkes are a problem'.

We have a section of our fans who want the Kroenk'es gone and Arteta gone. Who needs enemies with fans like this.
 
Paladin said:
Not sure who he cautioned at the end there, but it looked like the Watford player rather than the goalkeeper. Bizarre if so.

As for the corner incident, he is correct for insisting on the corner flag being replaced, and probably correct for cautioning her for removing it a second time - albeit he wasn't watching when she removed it first time.

It seemed she wanted to remove the flag because she couldn't place the ball on the right (from our perspective) of the flag, because of the water. She can't move the flag, because she can't kick with her left foot!

If the red card was solely for the corner incident, it seems very harsh. Maybe the player triggered it by calling him a **** or something.

Both incidents looked like straight reds though, and from those brief clips, it definitely looked as though he wasn't entirely impartial.
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I was thinking exactly that, I wonder what she said to him.
 
ArtetaTechnicalArea said:
The Watkins bid is an opportunity singing if it happens. Villa's wage turnover is close to 100% of turnover. Its no secret they need to balcne it out a little.

As for the surprie Arsenal have bid this much. Ive been saying it for a long time the Kroenke's have become very good owners ever since they got full ownership of the club. We have so many fans stuck in 2012 who think 'the Kroenkes are a problem'.

We have a section of our fans who want the Kroenk'es gone and Arteta gone. Who needs enemies with fans like this.
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Allegedly he's the 'missing link' for Arteta, so it will be interesting if your Board pushes it through. Would be a very good signing in January.
 
bluetonium said:
Thought it was a yellow on first look, but looking at the slo mo replays and some stills I can see why they said red. I don't think they'll over turn it now, precisely because arsenal have made such a big deal out of it and there isn't enough to suggest it was actually wrong. The decision itself, yellow or red, you can justify either as it sits somewhere in-between and in the 'what ifs'. There are many tackles like that every week and very few are given as red, but it's at force and and it's studs. Could have put the lad out of action for a while and it is the intent that is key, no regard for player safety and was very deliberate, so the referee has all he needs to justify it. That Skally character is fast getting himself a reputation as a proper little shite isn't he, wasn't he booked before he even made his debut for being a snide bastard?

But regardless, as others have said, a siege mentally can work wonders but arsenal and arteta are just taking it to extreme levels and inverting it to almost flat earther levels, to the point that that fan base are getting all whipped up every single week about something and can't see anything other than their own opinions.

Surrounded the referee too, they need calling out for that one. As for the fans abusing Oliver, I've seen some shocking decisions and I've questioned the bias of many a referee. Game management is absolutely a thing and there are other factors involved for officials beyond what is the actual correct decision. Clattenburg and others have admitted as much. But to threaten someone's life, their family and kids, regardless of club and colours it's unacceptable. What arsenal and arteta need to accept is that, regardless of the decision, their behavior is helping morons online justify their aggression. They have a responsibility to act and behave in a way that shows professionalism and respect, even if it was incorrect.

What I would say from an officiating point of view is, if that is the standard, let's see it every week with some consistency then please. Clarify why it was deemed a red and let people know. Even in real time maybe. That works shoot down a lot of the theories before they take hold. We see balls kicked away now not being carded, for example, and they're setting themselves up for controversy.

It's the symptom of Arsenal's whole reason for failure. We've felt the same before, but the attitude that got us to rise above it and actually win, was to be better. Be so good that poor decisions can't impact a game, don't moan, don't cry. I get it's upsetting to lose the league every year but honestly to blame everyone else is a shyster's trick and, simply, untrue.

They won the match, they can survive a few games without that player as he's hardly key, so take that and maybe focus on a bit of self control, from the players on the pitch to the keyboard warriors hiding in their bedrooms. Because arsenal now have a reputation, and that could well feature in the back of anyone's mind, including the officials, as they're human too.
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See Neville article today accusing Arsenal off whipping up referee hate.
 
Salford_Blue said:
If Dhuran goes, no way Watkins also moves.

Why would Villa lose two strikers at this stage of the season for a few quid in the bank?

Through to next phase of Chumps League, a high chance of qualification for next year.

What's that phrase about cutting sommat off?
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Dick to spite the wife
 
Bluemoon115 said:
Even if they beat us they're a bunch of losers.

At least Spurs are interesting. Arsenal have the most boring, deranged, "almost there" history in the world.

Even "The Invincibles" is based on not losing, not about winning.
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The invincibles have been kept famous because of City, Chelsea and Liverpool both had one loss in a season since, both were city.

They're also league invincibles because of dodgy reffing and diving.
 
Bluemoon115 said:
Even if they beat us they're a bunch of losers.

At least Spurs are interesting. Arsenal have the most boring, deranged, "almost there" history in the world.

Even "The Invincibles" is based on not losing, not about winning.
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Weirdly confident for this one, we seem to have turned a bit of a corner and very well may push on with a bit of form. The tarquins are a fragile bunch and we could expose that fragility tomorrow.
 
Has there ever been a team with a greater inferiority complex than Arsenal?

Everything they do is driven by an innate knowledge that they simply aren't as good as us.
 
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