asault by grown men on kids waiting for a bus in ashton....

[Bigga]

I know you are trying to take the mick but ban Bhurkas, close aggressive preaching Mosques, postpone new mosque builds, stop aggressive preachers, deport known terrorists, deport expected terrorists, stop Islamic migration to UK until controls are adhered to, ban Islamic marches preaching hate toward UK armed forces, police or British Citizens, stop UK funded Islamic only schools, tag Moderate at risk radical Islamists, educate society, allow woman equal rights, allow islamc woman to choose a life for their own, stop Rape gangs exploiting the weak, stop benefits to known Islamic exploiters, ensure English spoken language rules are adhered to. respectable Muslims would agree to all of these to stop the spread of radical Islam.

Apart from the Bhurka being none-of-your-fooking-business(especially if the woman chooses this for herself and they can DO, believe me!), the tagging and the border shit, I can pretty much agree with that post.

My main concern has always been the extreme clerics. I just keep wondering where all the good cleric voices are.

How can so few out shout the majority...??

But, then again, when countries of Islam are being occupied and bombed, surely you expect a backlash, somehow??

Maybe you should also petition to get the soldiers out of those countries and this society can start the healing process...???

So, Bigga, Islam is one great whole, is it? No, it isn't. It is hugely fragmented. There's Sunni and Shia to start with, then Sufism, then lots of other small and not so small sects, many of whom are discriminated against by the majority sect in their particular country. The vast majority of Muslims are peaceable and want to live within the framework of the laws the country they live in. Unfortunately there is a minority who want to return to the Caliphate, live under an extremely politicised Salifist system - it is those who threaten anyone who demurs from their hate filled agenda. Let's not fall into the EDL trap and simplicise things to a Beano level - us and them. It ain't like that.

I KNOW there are many sects, which was my point! I spoke out against the EXTREMIST clerics & no one else. I know many Muslims, many! But, let me say that even some of the most peaceful are starting to question things as violence against their people spreads, not to mention the negative depiction of Islam in the media.

I took a phone from one such guy that I had to convince about what the media was up to. I was shocked that even he was starting to have his doubts. What has entered his mind in order to have such thoughts?

Unless the sane of us, in our society(so called leaders), nip this shit in the bud, we may be in for some seriously rocky times.

 

[dazdon]

Nip what shit in the bud?

 

[sweynforkbeard]

I, too, worry about what direction we seem to be heading.

Apart from the Bhurka being none-of-your-fooking-business(especially if the woman chooses this for herself and they can DO, believe me!), the tagging and the border shit, I can pretty much agree with that post.

My main concern has always been the extreme clerics. I just keep wondering where all the good cleric voices are.

How can so few out shout the majority...??

But, then again, when countries of Islam are being occupied and bombed, surely you expect a backlash, somehow??

Maybe you should also petition to get the soldiers out of those countries and this society can start the healing process...???

So, Bigga, Islam is one great whole, is it? No, it isn't. It is hugely fragmented. There's Sunni and Shia to start with, then Sufism, then lots of other small and not so small sects, many of whom are discriminated against by the majority sect in their particular country. The vast majority of Muslims are peaceable and want to live within the framework of the laws the country they live in. Unfortunately there is a minority who want to return to the Caliphate, live under an extremely politicised Salifist system - it is those who threaten anyone who demurs from their hate filled agenda. Let's not fall into the EDL trap and simplicise things to a Beano level - us and them. It ain't like that.

I KNOW there are many sects, which was my point! I spoke out against the EXTREMIST clerics & no one else. I know many Muslims, many! But, let me say that even some of the most peaceful are starting to question things as violence against their people spreads, not to mention the negative depiction of Islam in the media.

I took a phone from one such guy that I had to convince about what the media was up to. I was shocked that even he was starting to have his doubts. What has entered his mind in order to have such thoughts?

Unless the sane of us, in our society(so called leaders), nip this shit in the bud, we may be in for some seriously rocky times.

 

[nedums noodles]

We must fight against aggressive Islam before it dominates UK culture and politics.

The amount of attacks will increase not decrease, look at Somalia, Philippines, Thailand, India, Sri Lanka, Nigeria, Borneo, Syria, Afghanistan and too many other countries where Islam has enforced itself upon. War death slaughter and death too other religions.

How do we fight against aggressive Islam ? Where do we start ?

I know you are trying to take the mick but ban Bhurkas, close aggressive preaching Mosques, postpone new mosque builds, stop aggressive preachers, deport known terrorists, deport expected terrorists, stop Islamic migration to UK until controls are adhered to, ban Islamic marches preaching hate toward UK armed forces, police or British Citizens, stop UK funded Islamic only schools, tag Moderate at risk radical Islamists, educate society, allow woman equal rights, allow islamc woman to choose a life for their own, stop Rape gangs exploiting the weak, stop benefits to known Islamic exploiters, ensure English spoken language rules are adhered to. respectable Muslims would agree to all of these to stop the spread of radical Islam.

great post!

 

[tidyman]

We must fight against aggressive Islam before it dominates UK culture and politics.

The amount of attacks will increase not decrease, look at Somalia, Philippines, Thailand, India, Sri Lanka, Nigeria, Borneo, Syria, Afghanistan and too many other countries where Islam has enforced itself upon. War death slaughter and death too other religions.

How do we fight against aggressive Islam ? Where do we start ?

I know you are trying to take the mick but ban Bhurkas, close aggressive preaching Mosques, postpone new mosque builds, stop aggressive preachers, deport known terrorists, deport expected terrorists, stop Islamic migration to UK until controls are adhered to, ban Islamic marches preaching hate toward UK armed forces, police or British Citizens, stop UK funded Islamic only schools, tag Moderate at risk radical Islamists, educate society, allow woman equal rights, allow islamc woman to choose a life for their own, stop Rape gangs exploiting the weak, stop benefits to known Islamic exploiters, ensure English spoken language rules are adhered to. respectable Muslims would agree to all of these to stop the spread of radical Islam.

Some of those statements don't even make any sense:

Deport expected terrorists?
Tag moderate at risk radical Islamists?
Stop benefits to known Islamic exploiters?

Some of them are already law:

Women already have equal rights.
Rape is already illegal.
Education is compulsay.

Also mosques are buildings. They're incapable of been aggressive. You could monitor every word that is spoken in them all but it would be an operation the Chinese army would struggle to keep on top of.

And you seriously want a civilised first world country to make the wearing of an item of clothing illegal?

I highly doubt respectable Muslims or indeed anyone with half a grip on reality would agree with your bizarre list of demands.

 

[dazdon]

How do we fight against aggressive Islam ? Where do we start ?

I know you are trying to take the mick but ban Bhurkas, close aggressive preaching Mosques, postpone new mosque builds, stop aggressive preachers, deport known terrorists, deport expected terrorists, stop Islamic migration to UK until controls are adhered to, ban Islamic marches preaching hate toward UK armed forces, police or British Citizens, stop UK funded Islamic only schools, tag Moderate at risk radical Islamists, educate society, allow woman equal rights, allow islamc woman to choose a life for their own, stop Rape gangs exploiting the weak, stop benefits to known Islamic exploiters, ensure English spoken language rules are adhered to. respectable Muslims would agree to all of these to stop the spread of radical Islam.

Some of those statements don't even make any sense:

Deport expected terrorists?
Tag moderate at risk radical Islamists?
Stop benefits to known Islamic exploiters?

Some of them are already law:

Women already have equal rights.
Rape is already illegal.
Education is compulsay.

Also mosques are buildings. They're incapable of been aggressive. You could monitor every word that is spoken in them all but it would be an operation the Chinese army would struggle to keep on top of.

And you seriously want a civilised first world country to make the wearing of an item of clothing illegal?

I highly doubt respectable Muslims or indeed anyone with half a grip on reality would agree with your bizarre list of demands.

You're just reading it the way you want to.....comprehension 101 and it all becomes clear as day.

Your rape comment is misguided after the grooming scandals.

 

[Dzeko's Right Boot]

How do we fight against aggressive Islam ? Where do we start ?

I know you are trying to take the mick but ban Bhurkas, close aggressive preaching Mosques, postpone new mosque builds, stop aggressive preachers, deport known terrorists, deport expected terrorists, stop Islamic migration to UK until controls are adhered to, ban Islamic marches preaching hate toward UK armed forces, police or British Citizens, stop UK funded Islamic only schools, tag Moderate at risk radical Islamists, educate society, allow woman equal rights, allow islamc woman to choose a life for their own, stop Rape gangs exploiting the weak, stop benefits to known Islamic exploiters, ensure English spoken language rules are adhered to. respectable Muslims would agree to all of these to stop the spread of radical Islam.

Some of those statements don't even make any sense:

Deport expected terrorists?
Tag moderate at risk radical Islamists?
Stop benefits to known Islamic exploiters?

Some of them are already law:

Women already have equal rights.
Rape is already illegal.
Education is compulsay.

Also mosques are buildings. They're incapable of been aggressive. You could monitor every word that is spoken in them all but it would be an operation the Chinese army would struggle to keep on top of.

And you seriously want a civilised first world country to make the wearing of an item of clothing illegal?

I highly doubt respectable Muslims or indeed anyone with half a grip on reality would agree with your bizarre list of demands.

Too right. This thread has brought out the worst of Bluemoon.

 

[tidyman]

I know you are trying to take the mick but ban Bhurkas, close aggressive preaching Mosques, postpone new mosque builds, stop aggressive preachers, deport known terrorists, deport expected terrorists, stop Islamic migration to UK until controls are adhered to, ban Islamic marches preaching hate toward UK armed forces, police or British Citizens, stop UK funded Islamic only schools, tag Moderate at risk radical Islamists, educate society, allow woman equal rights, allow islamc woman to choose a life for their own, stop Rape gangs exploiting the weak, stop benefits to known Islamic exploiters, ensure English spoken language rules are adhered to. respectable Muslims would agree to all of these to stop the spread of radical Islam.

Some of those statements don't even make any sense:

Deport expected terrorists?
Tag moderate at risk radical Islamists?
Stop benefits to known Islamic exploiters?

Some of them are already law:

Women already have equal rights.
Rape is already illegal.
Education is compulsay.

Also mosques are buildings. They're incapable of been aggressive. You could monitor every word that is spoken in them all but it would be an operation the Chinese army would struggle to keep on top of.

And you seriously want a civilised first world country to make the wearing of an item of clothing illegal?

I highly doubt respectable Muslims or indeed anyone with half a grip on reality would agree with your bizarre list of demands.

You're just reading it the way you want to.....comprehension 101 and it all becomes clear as day.

Your rape comment is misguided after the grooming scandals.

I'm reading it the way it is written. I'll be most grateful if you can explain to me what those first three items I've highlighted mean.

 

[dazdon]

I didn't write it and i'm not explaining it.

Perhaps you don't understand it?

Your rape comment was a bit creepy.

 

[SWP's back]

How do we fight against aggressive Islam ? Where do we start ?

I know you are trying to take the mick but ban Bhurkas, close aggressive preaching Mosques, postpone new mosque builds, stop aggressive preachers, deport known terrorists, deport expected terrorists, stop Islamic migration to UK until controls are adhered to, ban Islamic marches preaching hate toward UK armed forces, police or British Citizens, stop UK funded Islamic only schools, tag Moderate at risk radical Islamists, educate society, allow woman equal rights, allow islamc woman to choose a life for their own, stop Rape gangs exploiting the weak, stop benefits to known Islamic exploiters, ensure English spoken language rules are adhered to. respectable Muslims would agree to all of these to stop the spread of radical Islam.

Some of those statements don't even make any sense:

Deport expected terrorists?
Tag moderate at risk radical Islamists?
Stop benefits to known Islamic exploiters?

Some of them are already law:

Women already have equal rights.
Rape is already illegal.
Education is compulsay.

Also mosques are buildings. They're incapable of been aggressive. You could monitor every word that is spoken in them all but it would be an operation the Chinese army would struggle to keep on top of.

And you seriously want a civilised first world country to make the wearing of an item of clothing illegal?

I highly doubt respectable Muslims or indeed anyone with half a grip on reality would agree with your bizarre list of demands.

Like France you mean?