Atmosphere 2024/25

jitsubluedan said:
Was in my usual seat in CB1 yesterday and thought atmosphere was pretty flat; said to my lad that the only time the whole ground joins in is when it’s a simple chant where everyone knows/can follow the words i.e. Champions Again and Blue Moon. The overseas fans and most of the day trippers don’t know the other chants.

That said, it was difficult to pick up the other chants as the stands either side of the away fans usually start different ones and from where we are, you can’t hear either of them properly and consequently, aren’t sure which one to join in with.

Whilst I have no objection to casual fans, it is impacting on the match day atmosphere; most of them are there for the ‘experience’, rather than the game and therefore, aren’t as emotionally invested as the regular fans.

IMHO there are too many casual fans interspersed in the stands which dilutes the atmosphere.
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It's going to get worse every season
 
jitsubluedan said:
Was in my usual seat in CB1 yesterday and thought atmosphere was pretty flat; said to my lad that the only time the whole ground joins in is when it’s a simple chant where everyone knows/can follow the words i.e. Champions Again and Blue Moon. The overseas fans and most of the day trippers don’t know the other chants.

That said, it was difficult to pick up the other chants as the stands either side of the away fans usually start different ones and from where we are, you can’t hear either of them properly and consequently, aren’t sure which one to join in with.

Whilst I have no objection to casual fans, it is impacting on the match day atmosphere; most of them are there for the ‘experience’, rather than the game and therefore, aren’t as emotionally invested as the regular fans.

IMHO there are too many casual fans interspersed in the stands which dilutes the atmosphere.
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Sadly, with season tickets not being resold as season tickets and then many of those seats seemingly not going on sale to members on a match-by-match basis either (it has been a different random foreigner who half the time isn’t even a City fan next to me for the last two years), this is just going to get worse year on year.
 
M23 Citizen said:
Sadly, with season tickets not being resold as season tickets and then many of those seats seemingly not going on sale to members on a match-by-match basis either (it has been a different random foreigner who half the time isn’t even a City fan next to me for the last two years), this is just going to get worse year on year.
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95% of season ticket holders sat in silence yesterday ( as they do for every home game ).

Blaming tourists and non season ticket holders is too easy.

Having a few hundred singers amongst 50k home fans won’t create an atmosphere no matter where they are relocated.
 
Betterdeedthan red said:
It's going to get worse every season
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M23 Citizen said:
Sadly, with season tickets not being resold as season tickets and then many of those seats seemingly not going on sale to members on a match-by-match basis either (it has been a different random foreigner who half the time isn’t even a City fan next to me for the last two years), this is just going to get worse year on year.
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Agree that it is going to get worse, unfortunately. I usually receive a survey invitation after each game which asks about the atmosphere and I mark it down. It asks for comments and my suggestion is they have dedicated stands for local/ regular fans.

I can’t think of any other suggestion as the club are not going to give up the opportunity to sell reallocated season tickets at the full market price - which from their perspective, is understandable.

If we can’t make a game we pass our tickets on to friends/family, but I appreciate maybe some people may wish to ‘bank’ the credit for the following season’s renewal. Maybe if there was a scheme where the ticket could be transferred at the discounted price to a local fan, then it might help but I don’t think the club would allow it.

Notwithstanding the clubs’ view on the above suggestion, as we all know, transferring of tickets outside official processes does go on.

Indeed, when walking up for both the Fulham and the Sparta Prague games we witnessed touts with phones transferring tickets over to people who had just bought them.
 
Prophet of Doom said:
95% of season ticket holders sat in silence yesterday ( as they do for every home game ).

Blaming tourists and non season ticket holders is too easy.

Having a few hundred singers amongst 50k home fans won’t create an atmosphere no matter where they are relocated.
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I don’t disagree with you on season ticket holders not singing but as I stated in my original post, it is difficult to pick up which chant to sing. We tried a few yesterday - there was a smattering of the ‘follow, follow, follow’ one (updated version) and the ‘don’t these times..’ but as the different stands either side of the away fans sing different ones, it’s difficult to get one going.

I joined in on both where I could pick them up, but no-one around did. Whilst I take your point regarding there being a few hundred tourists amongst the fans; I see less and less familiar faces in our stand every week and people don’t like singing in isolation.

I do think my point on whether fans know the words or not is also part of it, given that the only 2 songs which gained any traction around the whole ground were Champions Again and Blue Moon.
 
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M23 Citizen said:
Yet the atmosphere was better against Watford in a competition we aren’t arsed if we go out in where there were about 600 away fans, then it was yesterday for a Prem game which is a much bigger occasion.
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A league game in October against bottom of the table opposition who we have no enmity for is no kind of occasion whatsoever. Never has been never will be.
 
Prophet of Doom said:
95% of season ticket holders sat in silence yesterday ( as they do for every home game ).

Blaming tourists and non season ticket holders is too easy.

Having a few hundred singers amongst 50k home fans won’t create an atmosphere no matter where they are relocated.
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Living up to your name. Bravo Sir !!!

We have thousands of fans that sing, not always in sync, granted, but when needed, we create a cauldron. As has been evidenced by several high profile players from opposition teams.

As a season ticket holder at Maine Road, on the Kippax when it was standing only, for many years, I don’t mind admitting that our atmosphere wasn’t always fantastic. In fact, on lots of occasions it was bobbins.

Yes, I would love to have a derby style atmosphere every week, but the reality is that we just won’t simply ever get that on a week on week off basis.

Are you a season ticket holder? If yes,are you in the 95% or 5% that you refer to?

Some games are electric, some aren’t, once people accept that, life will be much easier for those that are preoccupied with empty seats, no singing, late arrivals, half time early leavers, after half time late arrivals, early full time leavers, kids group singers, no singers, tourist fans, player allocation ticket holders, etc etc

All I can say is, I’m CTID, CTID, I know I am, I’m sure I am, I’m CTID
 
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