Atmosphere 2024/25

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And you have been to every other major football ground to make an appropriate comparison?
No but I've been to about 1,000 games and I see all the PL away fans. Arsenal have a significant black support and Man Utd have a mixed support. I have never been to a game where I have seen so many Asian fans. You don't have to accept my comment. I am not replying again because I have repeated my point too many times already
 
I'm not convinced it is. Last night was from £37.50 for adults and £12.50 for kids.

Now I'd love City to buck the trend and think there's an argument that they could slash the prices in the new stand, make it an atmosphere end and sell season tickets ona loyalty point basis originally, then maybe sell a number to local/lapsed/legacy fans somehow. I think there's a coherent argument that you wil sell more corporate tickets and more general/tourist/one-off seats in the rest of the stadium if you have a better atmosphere. And the only way to acheive that is to get the vocal fans together under a roof.
I don't even know what I paid for my seat as it gets automatically deducted and I never look. £37.50 would be a lot less than many clubs would charge. Match-day PL prices are way too expensive.

I agree that the atmosphere should be an economic consideration for the club. Perhaps it will become more evident now but I think a lot of damage has been done.
 
No but I've been to about 1,000 games and I see all the PL away fans. Arsenal have a significant black support and Man Utd have a mixed support. I have never been to a game where I have seen so many Asian fans. You don't have to accept my comment. I am not replying again because I have repeated my point too many times already
Because its bollocks and opinion based with no evidence to back it up
 
There is a big difference between the nationalism of a people like India, Pakistan etc and English nationalism which is overtly anti-foreign.

I think it's big plus for MCFC that we are the first major football club outside of London that can host a football match where there is a huge number of asian football fans. In London you see clubs like Arsenal attracting a number of black fans to their games. At City last night we had huge numbers of Asian fans. I don't think you can argue that they were there to support Real Madrid because this tendency has been there for a while and it's growing.

It's not entirely positive because it's associated with a decline in City's hard-core support which is bad for the atmosphere. But it would be even worse if the ground was empty.

Eh!? Overtly anti-foreign….you’re confusing a minority of far right numpties with your average Englishman, and that opinion is part of the problem, it’s lazy, and tarnishes everyone with the same brush
 
I don't even know what I paid for my seat as it gets automatically deducted and I never look. £37.50 would be a lot less than many clubs would charge. Match-day PL prices are way too expensive.

I agree that the atmosphere should be an economic consideration for the club. Perhaps it will become more evident now but I think a lot of damage has been done.
Mine was £52.50 and it was £25 each for my two sons. Not brilliant but not bad.
 
Reading these posts reaffirms my opinion that I probably won’t bother with another CL game. Up until this season I was on the cup schemes, and I thought I still was until the club informed me on the day the Inter tickets went on sale that I’d opted out of all the schemes (I hadn’t), but not to worry, I could still buy on a game by game basis.

The trouble with that is, the habit is broken. As football fans, we’re creatures of habit and that starts from a young age. CL nights were already a different crowd, but I still turned up through habit.

Unfortunately, my mate next to me passed before Christmas, which further detracts from the European nights - we’d be surrounded by a totally different fan, often filming the entire game and not contributing to the atmosphere, but we’d go and make a laugh of it together.

Knowing he wouldn’t be there last night, and I’d be surrounded by iPads and iPhones, I didn’t bother. I knew what it’d be like, and it seems I wasn’t wrong.

I’ll put myself back on the FA Cup scheme again next season, but won’t bother with the Disney Cup.

I saw us lift it in Istanbul which was a fantastic experience, but the matchday experience at the Etihad is a far cry from that atmosphere.

Bring on Plymouth, won’t be an iPad in sight.
 
There are ton of people who look Asian at champins league games, and a fair few at League games. This is non-scientific but they don't look or sound like British Asians to me. I don't know if they are wealthy students or what and I've always wondered a bit where they came from.

We had about 100-150 teenagers of Asian heritage in the Family stand, all arrived together, sat together & left together, quite a lot of females too, was I bothered that they were Asian or that most didn’t even look interested in the game, no, but I did wonder how they facilitated tickets. Could of been a local school or college, multi faith centre, I wouldn’t know, but there’s no way they met the criteria for the match, and that is an ongoing problem similar to the Chelsea kids in there a few weeks ago
 
Reading these posts reaffirms my opinion that I probably won’t bother with another CL game. Up until this season I was on the cup schemes, and I thought I still was until the club informed me on the day the Inter tickets went on sale that I’d opted out of all the schemes (I hadn’t), but not to worry, I could still buy on a game by game basis.
That happened to me too..told I had opted out of all the cup schemes and wouldn't allow me to join Champions League scheme so I tried to join f a cup scheme but wouldn't allow me to do that either..
Been in all the cup schemes from when we were allowed to join .
 
We had about 100-150 teenagers of Asian heritage in the Family stand, all arrived together, sat together & left together, quite a lot of females too, was I bothered that they were Asian or that most didn’t even look interested in the game, no, but I did wonder how they facilitated tickets. Could of been a local school or college, multi faith centre, I wouldn’t know, but there’s no way they met the criteria for the match, and that is an ongoing problem similar to the Chelsea kids in there a few weeks ago
The club sell coach trips I think and i'm sure there are no sales criteria. There can't be. There are often big groups of Scottish kids. I'm sure they would argue that they are expanding the fanbase. Seems odd to allow coaches to a high profile game like Real Midrid or Chelsea though.
 
I stopped going West Ham last season, mainly coz my Dad died but also the amount of dickheads around me glued to their iphones, filming the game, really fucks me off.
I used to defend the tourists - and i still do really, as i've gone America and watched Baseball, basketball etc so why should the not be allowed to our games - but it really does affect the atmosphere and its just a weird unenjoyable mix, costly as well.
Don't miss it at all and rather go my local pub for Hammers match.
 
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I'm not convinced it is. Last night was from £37.50 for adults and £12.50 for kids.

Now I'd love City to buck the trend and think there's an argument that they could slash the prices in the new stand, make it an atmosphere end and sell season tickets ona loyalty point basis originally, then maybe sell a number to local/lapsed/legacy fans somehow. I think there's a coherent argument that you wil sell more corporate tickets and more general/tourist/one-off seats in the rest of the stadium if you have a better atmosphere. And the only way to acheive that is to get the vocal fans together under a roof.
If all the games started at that price it might help to some extent. Unfortunately, Saturday's match against Newcastle starts at £71.00 for adults and £43.00 for kids. People are therefore forced to make a decision, and many will pick the Premier League over the Champions League, that’s if they go at all, leaving thousands of tickets for the tourists/non City fans. The primary source of many of our match day issues is City's abhorrent Premier League match day prices.
The poster to which you responded is accurate; United fans are furious that the cost of their tickets have increased to a level that we have been used to for several years.
 
Youngest was in SL3.
Said he was surrounded by Spaniards and players fans rather than City fans.
We have really sold our souls to the devil especially european nights. I'm still in the scheme and will remain but only.for away tickets
 
If all the games started at that price it might help to some extent. Unfortunately, Saturday's match against Newcastle starts at £71.00 for adults and £43.00 for kids. People are therefore forced to make a decision, and many will pick the Premier League over the Champions League, that’s if they go at all, leaving thousands of tickets for the tourists/non City fans. The primary source of many of our match day issues is City's abhorrent Premier League match day prices.
The poster to which you responded is accurate; United fans are furious that the cost of their tickets have increased to a level that we have been used to for several years.
Starts at £71? Totally agree that's way too expensive for Newcastle but unfortunatly it easily sold out at that level.

If they can fill the ground at that price it bolsters my point: have the whole second tier of the new stand at a cheap price and fill it with vocal fans by whatever means. Then charge normal pricing around the rest of the stadium. Make season tickets reasonable, which I think they pretty much are, but charge high prices for the tourists and glory hunters.
 
I'm not convinced it is. Last night was from £37.50 for adults and £12.50 for kids.

Now I'd love City to buck the trend and think there's an argument that they could slash the prices in the new stand, make it an atmosphere end and sell season tickets ona loyalty point basis originally, then maybe sell a number to local/lapsed/legacy fans somehow. I think there's a coherent argument that you wil sell more corporate tickets and more general/tourist/one-off seats in the rest of the stadium if you have a better atmosphere. And the only way to acheive that is to get the vocal fans together under a roof.
Those aren't bad prices.

I didn't go, couple of reasons

1. I assumed I wouldn't be to get a ticket,
2. I also assumed it would be way more expensive, so wasnt really looking.

I know in the past I'd see the club advertising cheaper prices all over social media - either I've missed that this time, or they aren't doing it any more for some reason?
 
Starts at £71? Totally agree that's way too expensive for Newcastle but unfortunatly it easily sold out at that level.

If they can fill the ground at that price it bolsters my point: have the whole second tier of the new stand at a cheap price and fill it with vocal fans by whatever means. Then charge normal pricing around the rest of the stadium. Make season tickets reasonable, which I think they pretty much are, but charge high prices for the tourists and glory hunters.
I get what you're saying about them selling, but I believe we're seeing the beginning of a drop off. More and more tickets are being listed on the exchange, but less and less of them are being sold. Last season, tickets were snapped up as soon as they were listed; currently, there are hundreds available for Newcastle. If the current form downturn continues, the fall in demand will shortly transfer into the initial ticket releases.
I agree with you that there is room for every demographic, but City are getting the balance completely wrong.
 
serious society problem we live in, vast majority of adults are glued to their phones, what hope for the next generation?
My 12-year-old son was disgusted by the number of people filming the match last night; he was just as wound up by it as I was. I was proud of him; there is yet hope for the future.
 
My 12-year-old son was disgusted by the number of people filming the match last night; he was just as wound up by it as I was. I was proud of him; there is yet hope for the future.

I mean, what are they even filming it for ?
they don't rewatch it, maybe post a clip on social media. whats the fuckin point.
 

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