Atmosphere Thread | 2025/26

[M18CTID]

1. The image shown by the poster you replied to of the South Stand lower is accurate. It clearly highlights in purple a small, part of one stand. This is meant to be City`s home end where a lot of the the `atmosphere` group congregate. That is a fact.

2. The new North Stand will be on one huge level with a capacity of approx. 9,500 . These are General Admission (GA) and include a minimum of 3,000 safe standing (more can be added) and approx. only 300 GA+ seats which will probably be occupied by the type of fans who use `Kits`. These are facts.

3. Why do you think that General Admission including safe standing is a mis-mash?

4. The advantages / disadvantages of the South Stand have been clearly set out by other posters. Do you agree with those facts?

5.Why do you think that trying to encourage a few more to relocate to the South Stand, lets say 50 decide to do so, will make a significant difference?

6.Why did 1894 take a premature stance last year to stay in the South Stand when much more will be known during 2026?

By taking up this position, it will naturally weaken the prospects for the North Stand .

7. Re: your last paragraph, the singers currently at the back of the top level of the South Stand may have difficulty getting it going precisely because the stand is split into 3 and the atmosphere group in the lower level are disconnected, can not be seen and can not be heard.

6. It is evident that if the current singers in the top level of the South Stand, those singers in the lower level, and those singers in Kippax corner, all move into the North Stand on ONE level, it will have more chance of being better. This is logical and objective.

I do not who you are or who the `Elders` are in the 1894. I am looking at this based on facts and objective criteria.

This afternoon City`s home end will be 2/3rds full of away fans. They will once again drown out the small lower level.

This will always happen at the South Stand. Away fans will displace home fans !

It would be helpful to try and understand more of your thoughts on this, those views of any other `members` of 1894, and fans generally through this forum.

Look - I’ve already told one poster that we haven’t got the time to answer ever single post from every single fan on here and elsewhere.

But seeing as though you asked:

1) If you want to know why 1894 didn’t back the club’s plans for the new stand then I suggest you read the 1894 statement from 26th September 2024 because it’s all in there

2) What makes you think that every single singer will move from SS1, SS3, and Kippax Corner into the new stand? People aren’t going to move if they’re asked or told to, especially as many are happy to stay in the same seats they’ve had for 5,10,15, or even 20 years. Even if 1894 recommended they move, it isn’t happening. In fact, the last time 1894 had a high profile public campaign regarding moving into a new singing section in 114/115, only a dozen or so fans moved out of the official singing section in Kippax Corner.

3) With the above in mind, surely it’s better to have 2 singing ends rather than 1. And in case you missed it, that’s what 1894 and the OSC are trying to achieve. There are enough singers in other areas of the ground who may wish to move there - it doesn’t have to be a mass exodus from the South Stand and Kippax Corner.

4) The new stand is a mish-mash because it doesn’t matter how many GA seats there are - it’s the profile of fan that fills it that matters. Fill it with those who like to sing and create an atmosphere - great. That isn’t happening in a million years though because the club will be selling tickets to anyone and everyone, and no doubt they’ll be selling tickets via one of their 9 third party ticketing partners. 1894 and the OSC have absolutely no control over that. All we can control are the bits that the club lets us have control of. And for the umpteenth time, 1894 and the OSC will be working to try and get as many singers into the safe standing section of NS2. 1894 have also asked the club to at least protect the safe standing seats from being sold via third party ticketing partners.

4) Despite your prediction and despite having the numbers, the Exeter fans didn’t “drown out” the City fans in SS1 today.

5) You keep saying you don’t know who 1894 are, as though we’re some mysterious invisible entity. You even asked the other week “Who are 1894?”. Well apart from the fact that we’re the people who helped get a season ticket price freeze and a match-day ticket price reduction, I find that an utterly bizarre - and dare I say, a quite disturbing - line of questioning. I’m not sure why you personally need to get to know us but in any case, you’ve had over 12 years to find out who we are. We’re on the concourse at the back of 015 every single match day if you want to come over and have a chat. We also had a very visible presence at all the ticket price protests outside the stadium last season so you had ample opportunity to meet up with us.

 

[There is a Light]

I really, really hope something good still comes of the North Stand, but for all of the people who say 1894 South Stand season ticket holders should move to the North Stand, what happens if they do and it is an unmitigated failure? Then there is no noise coming from the South Stand either. I’m not sure why others can’t see and respect that. It’s a big risk and ask for people to move from where they’ve sat on some cases for 23 seasons, especially when the club STILL haven’t shared any details. Those who do end up moving should make it their business to make it a great success however, that’s if the club EVER plan to share any details on it.

 

[mancityvstoke]

Look - I’ve already told one poster that we haven’t got the time to answer ever single post from every single fan on here and elsewhere.

But seeing as though you asked:

1) If you want to know why 1894 didn’t back the club’s plans for the new stand then I suggest you read the 1894 statement from 26th September 2024 because it’s all in there

2) What makes you think that every single singer will move from SS1, SS3, and Kippax Corner into the new stand? People aren’t going to move if they’re asked or told to, especially as many are happy to stay in the same seats they’ve had for 5,10,15, or even 20 years. Even if 1894 recommended they move, it isn’t happening. In fact, the last time 1894 had a high profile public campaign regarding moving into a new singing section in 114/115, only a dozen or so fans moved out of the official singing section in Kippax Corner.

3) With the above in mind, surely it’s better to have 2 singing ends rather than 1. And in case you missed it, that’s what 1894 and the OSC are trying to achieve. There are enough singers in other areas of the ground who may wish to move there - it doesn’t have to be a mass exodus from the South Stand and Kippax Corner.

4) The new stand is a mish-mash because it doesn’t matter how many GA seats there are - it’s the profile of fan that fills it that matters. Fill it with those who like to sing and create an atmosphere - great. That isn’t happening in a million years though because the club will be selling tickets to anyone and everyone, and no doubt they’ll be selling tickets via one of their 9 third party ticketing partners. 1894 and the OSC have absolutely no control over that. All we can control are the bits that the club lets us have control of. And for the umpteenth time, 1894 and the OSC will be working to try and get as many singers into the safe standing section of NS2. 1894 have also asked the club to at least protect the safe standing seats from being sold via third party ticketing partners.

4) Despite your prediction and despite having the numbers, the Exeter fans didn’t “drown out” the City fans in SS1 today.

5) You keep saying you don’t know who 1894 are, as though we’re some mysterious invisible entity. You even asked the other week “Who are 1894?”. Well apart from the fact that we’re the people who helped get a season ticket price freeze and a match-day ticket price reduction, I find that an utterly bizarre - and dare I say, a quite disturbing - line of questioning. I’m not sure why you personally need to get to know us but in any case, you’ve had over 12 years to find out who we are. We’re on the concourse at the back of 015 every single match day if you want to come over and have a chat. We also had a very visible presence at all the ticket price protests outside the stadium last season so you had ample opportunity to meet up with us.

You’ve got more patience than I could ever have boss

 

[TShed]

Look - I’ve already told one poster that we haven’t got the time to answer ever single post from every single fan on here and elsewhere.

But seeing as though you asked:

1) If you want to know why 1894 didn’t back the club’s plans for the new stand then I suggest you read the 1894 statement from 26th September 2024 because it’s all in there

2) What makes you think that every single singer will move from SS1, SS3, and Kippax Corner into the new stand? People aren’t going to move if they’re asked or told to, especially as many are happy to stay in the same seats they’ve had for 5,10,15, or even 20 years. Even if 1894 recommended they move, it isn’t happening. In fact, the last time 1894 had a high profile public campaign regarding moving into a new singing section in 114/115, only a dozen or so fans moved out of the official singing section in Kippax Corner.

3) With the above in mind, surely it’s better to have 2 singing ends rather than 1. And in case you missed it, that’s what 1894 and the OSC are trying to achieve. There are enough singers in other areas of the ground who may wish to move there - it doesn’t have to be a mass exodus from the South Stand and Kippax Corner.

4) The new stand is a mish-mash because it doesn’t matter how many GA seats there are - it’s the profile of fan that fills it that matters. Fill it with those who like to sing and create an atmosphere - great. That isn’t happening in a million years though because the club will be selling tickets to anyone and everyone, and no doubt they’ll be selling tickets via one of their 9 third party ticketing partners. 1894 and the OSC have absolutely no control over that. All we can control are the bits that the club lets us have control of. And for the umpteenth time, 1894 and the OSC will be working to try and get as many singers into the safe standing section of NS2. 1894 have also asked the club to at least protect the safe standing seats from being sold via third party ticketing partners.

4) Despite your prediction and despite having the numbers, the Exeter fans didn’t “drown out” the City fans in SS1 today.

5) You keep saying you don’t know who 1894 are, as though we’re some mysterious invisible entity. You even asked the other week “Who are 1894?”. Well apart from the fact that we’re the people who helped get a season ticket price freeze and a match-day ticket price reduction, I find that an utterly bizarre - and dare I say, a quite disturbing - line of questioning. I’m not sure why you personally need to get to know us but in any case, you’ve had over 12 years to find out who we are. We’re on the concourse at the back of 015 every single match day if you want to come over and have a chat. We also had a very visible presence at all the ticket price protests outside the stadium last season so you had ample opportunity to meet up with us.

I was in the east stand front row level 3 today next to the North Stand normally SS3
Exeter looked good but could only ever hear City in SS1 for most of the game
Think I once heard them trying to get a pathetic 5-0 and you still don’t sing going

Oh and loved the we want 10 from the whole ground 3 year old grandson Reggie’s first game and he loved it we had to pretend Exeter were the rags because they had red on their shirts

He’s gone to bed thinking he’s seen pooey united beaten 10-1

 

[jrb]

1. The image shown by the poster you replied to of the South Stand lower is accurate. It clearly highlights in purple a small, part of one stand. This is meant to be City`s home end where a lot of the the `atmosphere` group congregate. That is a fact.

2. The new North Stand will be on one huge level with a capacity of approx. 9,500 . These are General Admission (GA) and include a minimum of 3,000 safe standing (more can be added) and approx. only 300 GA+ seats which will probably be occupied by the type of fans who use `Kits`. These are facts.

3. Why do you think that General Admission including safe standing is a mis-mash?

4. The advantages / disadvantages of the South Stand have been clearly set out by other posters. Do you agree with those facts?

5.Why do you think that trying to encourage a few more to relocate to the South Stand, lets say 50 decide to do so, will make a significant difference?

6.Why did 1894 take a premature stance last year to stay in the South Stand when much more will be known during 2026?

By taking up this position, it will naturally weaken the prospects for the North Stand .

7. Re: your last paragraph, the singers currently at the back of the top level of the South Stand may have difficulty getting it going precisely because the stand is split into 3 and the atmosphere group in the lower level are disconnected, can not be seen and can not be heard.

6. It is evident that if the current singers in the top level of the South Stand, those singers in the lower level, and those singers in Kippax corner, all move into the North Stand on ONE level, it will have more chance of being better. This is logical and objective.

I do not who you are or who the `Elders` are in the 1894. I am looking at this based on facts and objective criteria.

This afternoon City`s home end will be 2/3rds full of away fans. They will once again drown out the small lower level.

This will always happen at the South Stand. Away fans will displace home fans !

It would be helpful to try and understand more of your thoughts on this, those views of any other `members` of 1894, and fans generally through this forum.

Bert, you ask a lot of questions, but you don’t have any ideas and any answers yourself.

Fire away.

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

It was nice of the city fans to clap their goal at the end

 

[jimharri]

Oh and loved the we want 10 from the whole ground 3 year old grandson Reggie’s first game and he loved it we had to pretend Exeter were the rags because they had red on their shirts

He’s gone to bed thinking he’s seen pooey united beaten 10-1

You better point out to him that it's not like that every week!

 

[fitzy blue]

It was nice of the city fans to clap their goal at the end

Where we were sat in the Colin Bell top tier, everyone stood up to clap, actually thought they were Exeter fans till I recognised some faces applauding.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Look - I’ve already told one poster that we haven’t got the time to answer ever single post from every single fan on here and elsewhere.

But seeing as though you asked:

1) If you want to know why 1894 didn’t back the club’s plans for the new stand then I suggest you read the 1894 statement from 26th September 2024 because it’s all in there

2) What makes you think that every single singer will move from SS1, SS3, and Kippax Corner into the new stand? People aren’t going to move if they’re asked or told to, especially as many are happy to stay in the same seats they’ve had for 5,10,15, or even 20 years. Even if 1894 recommended they move, it isn’t happening. In fact, the last time 1894 had a high profile public campaign regarding moving into a new singing section in 114/115, only a dozen or so fans moved out of the official singing section in Kippax Corner.

3) With the above in mind, surely it’s better to have 2 singing ends rather than 1. And in case you missed it, that’s what 1894 and the OSC are trying to achieve. There are enough singers in other areas of the ground who may wish to move there - it doesn’t have to be a mass exodus from the South Stand and Kippax Corner.

4) The new stand is a mish-mash because it doesn’t matter how many GA seats there are - it’s the profile of fan that fills it that matters. Fill it with those who like to sing and create an atmosphere - great. That isn’t happening in a million years though because the club will be selling tickets to anyone and everyone, and no doubt they’ll be selling tickets via one of their 9 third party ticketing partners. 1894 and the OSC have absolutely no control over that. All we can control are the bits that the club lets us have control of. And for the umpteenth time, 1894 and the OSC will be working to try and get as many singers into the safe standing section of NS2. 1894 have also asked the club to at least protect the safe standing seats from being sold via third party ticketing partners.

4) Despite your prediction and despite having the numbers, the Exeter fans didn’t “drown out” the City fans in SS1 today.

5) You keep saying you don’t know who 1894 are, as though we’re some mysterious invisible entity. You even asked the other week “Who are 1894?”. Well apart from the fact that we’re the people who helped get a season ticket price freeze and a match-day ticket price reduction, I find that an utterly bizarre - and dare I say, a quite disturbing - line of questioning. I’m not sure why you personally need to get to know us but in any case, you’ve had over 12 years to find out who we are. We’re on the concourse at the back of 015 every single match day if you want to come over and have a chat. We also had a very visible presence at all the ticket price protests outside the stadium last season so you had ample opportunity to meet up with us.

I Loved the way the Blues in South Stand Level 1
really stuck it to Exeter in second half. Both sets of fans seemed to be having a good time.

 

[jrb]

I Loved the way the Blues in South Stand Level 1
really stuck it to Exeter in second half. Both sets of fans seemed to be having a good time.

You aren’t going to get that at the back of NSL2. ;-)

That’s one of the reasons why fans won’t relocate to NSL2 from SSL1 and the Kippax Cromer.(it’s not really the Kippax corner)

City fans and football fans love football banter on a match day in any shape and form.

When you have been brought up with football banter on the old Kippax stand and North stand at Maine Road, and Blocks 110 and Blocks 115 at the Etihad, it’s hard to walk away from that.

Being honest. I know I would be jealous and gutted to be stood at the beck of NSL2 missing out on all the banter with the away fans, especially on derby day, and against the other big PL clubs when City are beating them and have won the match, mixed in with singing and a great atmosphere on SSL1.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

It was nice of the city fans to clap their goal at the end

Quality of Exeter to reciprocate by celebrating our tenth goal.

 

[jrb]

Some of you have to understand.

What City have is genuinely pretty unique.

What other PL club has 2 singing sections either side of the away fans? Not one!

I have posted this on numerous occasions.

Imagine being an away fan on SSL1 between the City singing sections on SSL1 and the Kippax corner. It must be fucking horrible and intimidating, especially when City are winning. We’ve all seen away fans on SSL1 literally melt away and stand in silence looking around in awe when both SSL1 and the Kippax Corner are in full voice.

Those 2 singing sections should stay as they are. So should the back of SSL3. The NSL2 atmosphere should grow organically and overtime. It will with 3000 safe standing fans, with fans relocating there from other parts of the ground, new City fans, and new singers going into NSL2.

 

[TimpBlue32]

Really enjoyed today — reminded me of taking my son for the first time, aged 4. He’s now 18 with 12k points. Miles better than Champions League nights, which are full of tourists who will fleetingly watch City, spend a lot that night, but bring nothing long-term and have zero real affinity with the club.

 

[uwerosler28]

Some of you have to understand.

What City have is genuinely pretty unique.

What other PL club has 2 singing sections either side of the away fans? Not one!

I have posted this on numerous occasions.

Imagine being an away fan on SSL1 between the City singing sections on SSL1 and the Kippax corner. It must be fucking horrible and intimidating, especially when City are winning. We’ve all seen away fans on SSL1 literally melt away and stand in silence looking around in awe when both SSL1 and the Kippax Corner are in full voice.

Those 2 singing sections should stay as they are. So should the back of SSL3. The NSL2 atmosphere should grow organically and overtime. It will with 3000 safe standing fans, with fans relocating there from other parts of the ground, new City fans, and new singers going into NSL2.

That would make sense if either section actually made any noise, you are deluded if you think any away fans come away from the Etihad feeling intimidated.

 

[M18CTID]

That would make sense if either section actually made any noise, you are deluded if you think any away fans come away from the Etihad feeling intimidated.

It’s you that’s deluded. Plenty of away fans are on record as saying that they get pelters from both sides of the segregation. A Wolves fan I know through work said ours is one of his favourite away grounds due to the amount of banter from the City fans aimed at the away fans. To say neither section makes any noise is complete and utter horseshit.

 

[Pezzer2]

Kippax Corner was great today. South Stand wasn’t too bad either. Plenty of old school songs.
A guy called Tom Vickery Exeter fan and been on City podcasts this week proper laying into City fans on X . Such a lazy response and obviously must have allegiances to either United or Liverpool.

 

[LEXSTARproject]

We are all Manchester City fans/supporters, but let's look at the bigger picture

This issue with the stadium and the atmosphere has been caused by one group only: the club and the nameless execs involved, who no one can speak to or contact, no matter how hard you try

You need to look at the optics that this part of the club has caused the club over the last couple of years, with so many negative headlines

It's the club that set up this area in the first place; it's the club's fault that we don't have a home end

The set-up of the stadium for atmosphere does not work; this has been proven on so many occasions. The ticketing issues do not help the atmosphere either



The 1894 group with the post above have spoken out against ticket prices, and though fans have been moved from their seats, and fight against ticket resellers, these actions are like those of a trade union within a workplace

The reason people are taking issue with the 1894 is that you refer to yourself as an "atmosphere group", which is why other fans/supporters are annoyed with the South Stand stance. This is because the other fans are aware that this area in the South Stand does not work. After all, it is next to the away fans.

If the 1894 wants to stay in the lower south stand, then that's up to them. They have advised it's better to have 2 areas rather than 1

But if other fans want to set up We Are The North Stand or the 9320 as an atmospheric group for the atmospheric home end in the North Stand, they should be able to do so, like what the Homesdale Fanctics have done

But this needs to be allowed to happen

 

[Tim of the Oak]

We are all Manchester City fans/supporters, but let's look at the bigger picture

This issue with the stadium and the atmosphere has been caused by one group only: the club and the nameless execs involved, who no one can speak to or contact, no matter how hard you try

You need to look at the optics that this part of the club has caused the club over the last couple of years, with so many negative headlines

It's the club that set up this area in the first place; it's the club's fault that we don't have a home end

The set-up of the stadium for atmosphere does not work; this has been proven on so many occasions. The ticketing issues do not help the atmosphere either

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The 1894 group with the post above have spoken out against ticket prices, and though fans have been moved from their seats, and fight against ticket resellers, these actions are like those of a trade union within a workplace

The reason people are taking issue with the 1894 is that you refer to yourself as an "atmosphere group", which is why other fans/supporters are annoyed with the South Stand stance. This is because the other fans are aware that this area in the South Stand does not work. After all, it is next to the away fans.

If the 1894 wants to stay in the lower south stand, then that's up to them. They have advised it's better to have 2 areas rather than 1

But if other fans want to set up We Are The North Stand or the 9320 as an atmospheric group for the atmospheric home end in the North Stand, they should be able to do so, like what the Homesdale Fanctics have done

But this needs to be allowed to happen

There’s nothing stopping the formation of an 1880 Group for atmosphere in the North Stand.

 

[M18CTID]

There’s nothing stopping the formation of an 1880 Group for atmosphere in the North Stand.

Spot on Tim. Absolutely nothing stopping it whatsoever. I’ve pointed out previously that 1894 was formed by one solitary person. Well, there’s half a dozen or so people on this thread who don’t feel 1894’s views regarding the North Stand align with their own so why don’t they form their own group? Or is it too much like hard work and they’d sooner criticise from the sidelines?

In fact, the only thing stopping them doing it is themselves.

 

[SiMCFC]

Some of you have to understand.

What City have is genuinely pretty unique.

What other PL club has 2 singing sections either side of the away fans? Not one!

I have posted this on numerous occasions.

Imagine being an away fan on SSL1 between the City singing sections on SSL1 and the Kippax corner. It must be fucking horrible and intimidating, especially when City are winning. We’ve all seen away fans on SSL1 literally melt away and stand in silence looking around in awe when both SSL1 and the Kippax Corner are in full voice.

Those 2 singing sections should stay as they are. So should the back of SSL3. The NSL2 atmosphere should grow organically and overtime. It will with 3000 safe standing fans, with fans relocating there from other parts of the ground, new City fans, and new singers going into NSL2.

It just doesn't travel unfortunately, it might be loud in and around those 2 specific areas but unless it's a big match and the rest of the ground are also joining in, you can't hear that much, I used to be in SS Level 1 and used to go home deaf, i'm in CB Level 3 now as prefer the view and honestly the noise doesn't get to us on the halfway line.