Attacks in Paris

I don't actually think a lack of employment plays a big part in this. You can have a sense of 'separateness' whilst still maintaining a seemingly active participation in normal mainstream life.
I wouldn't disagree with that, but those employed don't have much either, I live in an area full of the sort of people we're talking about, with plenty of petty crime being committed, but still the majority still don't go down this route. It is after all a very small minority, and the French and Belgian element in the French attacks, seem to come from a similar disenfranchised element.
 
I wouldn't disagree with that, but those employed don't have much either, I live in an area full of the sort of people we're talking about, with plenty of petty crime being committed, but still the majority still don't go down this route. It is after all a very small minority, and the French and Belgian element in the French attacks, seem to come from a similar disenfranchised element.

I think it has been reported that one of the Paris attackers was actually a bus driver in that same city.
There is a train of thought that some of the people buying into all this murderous regime offer have been radicalised from an early age (young as 9 in some cases) yet some manage to also be radicalised later on, after seemingly being 'ordinary' citizens.
That's a pretty complex and diverse base to target.
 
I've no idea what "you know", but I definitely know that they have recruited significant numbers recently, and they are targeted specifically at this sort of intelligence.

I have no political bias, so not interested in the politics of it like you are.


Brother in laws son from previous marriage "works for the government " on contract. B-I-L and I were speaking earlier and he told me son just got his contract renewed for 3 months to March 2016 and had told him a lot of them got the news today Also all redundant posts are said to be no longer redundant however no plans as yet to recruit. Its a classic HR trick in reserve. Often redundancies are accounted for by not actually sacking anyone - just making unfilled posts redundant. Therefore you reverse that you create the idea you ave recruited 1900 posts as it were. Smoke and mirrors.
 
I think it has been reported that one of the Paris attackers was actually a bus driver in that same city.
There is a train of thought that some of the people buying into all this murderous regime offer have been radicalised from an early age (young as 9 in some cases) yet some manage to also be radicalised later on, after seemingly being 'ordinary' citizens.
That's a pretty complex and diverse base to target.
A bus driver will be on poor money, well they are where I live, many others are taxi drivers.

I think many/most are radicalised later, one of the most wanted women of this persuasion came from the town I live in, she was born and brought up as a normal british citizen, then radicalised after leaving school. In another local town two well brought up (apparantly), english lads in their early 20's, turned to islam, then jihad for much the same reasons.
 
Brother in laws son from previous marriage "works for the government " on contract. B-I-L and I were speaking earlier and he told me son just got his contract renewed for 3 months to March 2016 and had told him a lot of them got the news today Also all redundant posts are said to be no longer redundant however no plans as yet to recruit. Its a classic HR trick in reserve. Often redundancies are accounted for by not actually sacking anyone - just making unfilled posts redundant. Therefore you reverse that you create the idea you ave recruited 1900 posts as it were. Smoke and mirrors.
I directly know someone who's son has been recruited from an outside job, and is part of a significant number that were recruited at the same time, so we have differing scenarios, but they have certainly recruited new people recently.
 
I directly know someone who's son has been recruited from an outside job, and is part of a significant number that were recruited at the same time, so we have differing scenarios, but they have certainly recruited new people recently.

Recently- past tense - but my beef is that Cameron announces he WILL recruit 1900 NEW staff. Future tense. Really gets my fucking goat that we are lied to - this is about some serious shit. They can say they will recruit 10 new members of staff to check MP's expenses or 50 new parking meter ombudsmen and not bother but to say this stuff when peoples lives and the countries security could actually depend on it - just goes beyond the pale - don't care what party the government is from.
 
A bus driver will be on poor money, well they are where I live, many others are taxi drivers.

I think many/most are radicalised later, one of the most wanted women of this persuasion came from the town I live in, she was born and brought up as a normal british citizen, then radicalised after leaving school. In another local town two well brought up (apparantly), english lads in their early 20's, turned to islam, then jihad for much the same reasons.
A waste of lives. :-(
 
I'm talking a few weeks.

still not the next few weeks mate - sorry to be pedantic but the promise was ( going forward ) we will recruit 1900 new staff.

In any event even if they are true new recruits they may be recruited in the coming weeks and months and beyond that in the coming weeks or months they may get some valuable intelligence about a forthcoming attack. If an armed gang run amok in the West End say in the run up to Christmas I still think that investment in Police forces - more Bobbies on overtime on duty - investment in troops - bomb squads and the like in / around major cities will be more welcomed.

As it stands Police stations will be closed, Police numbers reduced, troop numbers reduced and troops concentrated in fewer locations like Tidwoth, Bulford and Catterick - far away from major conurbations - its just taking the cheap option that come next March will evaportae when the temporary contractors are let go as intended.
 
A waste of lives. :-(
Totally agree, and its something that needs to be put right, in all our communities, white, black, asian, and recent immigrant.

Such a complex issue, that white, British born, well educated, teen/adults are willing to become jihadist, never mind those already disenfranchised from our ethnic communities.
 
still not the next few weeks mate - sorry to be pedantic but the promise was ( going forward ) we will recruit 1900 new staff.
I can't really be bothered arguing with you, what I posted is fact that I know. I'm not mystic meg, so can't tell the future, but if you don't want to believe what you're told then that's up to you, but we weren't told about the new recruitment recently, yet it has happened, so I'm not sure why I should disbelieve a new announcement.
 
I can't really be bothered arguing with you, what I posted is fact that I know. I'm not mystic meg, so can't tell the future, but if you don't want to believe what you're told then that's up to you, but we weren't told about the new recruitment recently, yet it has happened, so I'm not sure why I should disbelieve a new announcement.

Because its a lie - its smoke and mirrors. On Friday night you saw brave Parisian Policemen and Firemen on the streets going to the aid of people and fighting off attackers. No amount of 1900 spooks real or imaginary will be out there for our folk if the moment comes.
 
Totally agree, and its something that needs to be put right, in all our communities, white, black, asian, and recent immigrant.

Such a complex issue, that white, British born, well educated, teen/adults are willing to become jihadist, never mind those already disenfranchised from our ethnic communities.

Makes you wonder how such a brilliant invention has had an impact on all this. The internet I mean.
 
A protestant minority that formed a majority in a significant area of Ireland, dominating a heavily armed, politicised police force and the UDR.

Any attempt to impose a united Ireland would have resulted in civil war on the scale of the Balkans. Most of the politicians understood that. The aim of unification was an ideal that could never have been achieved, but served as a rallying call to force the protestants to agree to power sharing.

My point was that a united Ireland was presented by PB as a "not unreasonable objective" which... as you said yourself and so do I was impossible. In that sense (and perhaps that sense alone) it's no different to ISIS' demands of a caliphate over other religions/sects of Islam that do not want it.
 
Because its a lie - its smoke and mirrors. On Friday night you saw brave Parisian Policemen and Firemen on the streets going to the aid of people and fighting off attackers. No amount of 1900 spooks real or imaginary will be out there for our folk if the moment comes.

No but they massively reduce the number of incidents that the policemen and fireman have to deal with. Prevention is better than cure.
 
Because its a lie - its smoke and mirrors. On Friday night you saw brave Parisian Policemen and Firemen on the streets going to the aid of people and fighting off attackers. No amount of 1900 spooks real or imaginary will be out there for our folk if the moment comes.
Your opinion, I won't bother arguing with you.

If it happens here, we'll see our own police, fire, and ambulance respond just the same, that is a completely different discussion.
 
Belgium v Spain called off amid security fears after the Paris attacks.

The threat is becoming very real and very scary, if it wasn't already. I've a feeling attacks like Friday nights' will start happening throughout europe/the west thick and fast.

The cunts have got a taste for it now. Although they've destroyed the middle east, the Paris attacks will be right at the very top of their achievements to date. They'll want the same sort of impact throughout Europe.

And there's no stopping it.
 
Belgium v Spain called off amid security fears after the Paris attacks.

The threat is becoming very real and very scary, if it wasn't already. I've a feeling attacks like Friday nights' will start happening throughout europe/the west thick and fast.

The cunts have got a taste for it now. Although they've destroyed the middle east, the Paris attacks will be right at the very top of their achievements to date. They'll want the same sort of impact throughout Europe.

And there's no stopping it.

Jesus Christ! You've got more chance of being hit by a flying saucer!

Alert yes, but ape shit run for hills? I think not.
 

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