Attendance for Dortmund? Also banners/flares/inflatables?

tolmie's hairdoo said:
I seriously think it's more to do with a generational,economy thing.

There is so much more to do for today's children/teenagers etc.

I'm in my late 30s now and City was pretty much all there was to do, it was relatively affordable to do the Kippax for £3 quid, even in the late 80s- mid 90s.

You went with your mates, it was you and your team against the world. There was a sense of tribalism, the edge needed to create an atmosphere in the first place.

The new generation of fan now has so much more disposable income, if it's not the cinema, it's gaming, gigs, whatever.

And those without such an income, are priced out altogether.

Football is now for the middle classes and above who convince themselves they are still working class, whatever the hell that meant in the first place.

The best atmospheres are still created by tension, fear, desperation or hate.

It was cheap, as you say, but also possible to just decide in the morning that you wanted to go to a game, go & queue up & get in. Loads of times I ended up going with a group of people who only decided to go because I was talking about the game before I went & they got an urge to see it , so came along.

I know loads of blues even now who were there regularly when we were shit but don't have memberships etc & haven't had since those days. They would all go to quite a few games if it wasn't for all the pissing about. They don't even know where to start, so just don't bother trying.
 
Neville Kneville said:
tolmie's hairdoo said:
I seriously think it's more to do with a generational,economy thing.

There is so much more to do for today's children/teenagers etc.

I'm in my late 30s now and City was pretty much all there was to do, it was relatively affordable to do the Kippax for £3 quid, even in the late 80s- mid 90s.

You went with your mates, it was you and your team against the world. There was a sense of tribalism, the edge needed to create an atmosphere in the first place.

The new generation of fan now has so much more disposable income, if it's not the cinema, it's gaming, gigs, whatever.

And those without such an income, are priced out altogether.

Football is now for the middle classes and above who convince themselves they are still working class, whatever the hell that meant in the first place.

The best atmospheres are still created by tension, fear, desperation or hate.

It was cheap, as you say, but also possible to just decide in the morning that you wanted to go to a game, go & queue up & get in. Loads of times I ended up going with a group of people who only decided to go because I was talking about the game before I went & they got an urge to see it , so came along.

I know loads of blues even now who were there regularly when we were shit but don't have memberships etc & haven't had since those days. They would all go to quite a few games if it wasn't for all the pissing about. They don't even know where to start, so just don't bother trying.


Agree entirely about a match-day walk-up.

My dad is of an age now where he has gone from a match day devotee, every week, to making an informed choice about the following.

He doesn't use the internet. He wouldn't know where to start in terms on memberships, having the dosh in the first place.

Coupled with he hates Saturday night and late Sunday kicks-off, where it is just easier for him to pop across the road and spend a tenner on two or three pints.

I find myself doing all the leg work and paying for it, just to make sure he gets to go.

He took me as a little boy, every week with my brothers.

One of my brothers doesn't get to go now because of work and family commitments, absolutely blue daft.

On the odd occasion he does get his shifts in enough advance, poor sod is sat at home left watching on internet, TV or listening to radio.

Just doesn't have that option of turning up last minute. I know absolutely loads of people I have grown up with who, for whatever reason, the motivation is not as strong.

And I think the lack of success down the years has ensured we don't actually have that many 'kids to take our place' at present.

A hard core of 30k come rain or shine, getting older, getting poorer by the year!
 
Neville Kneville said:
tolmie's hairdoo said:
I seriously think it's more to do with a generational,economy thing.

There is so much more to do for today's children/teenagers etc.

I'm in my late 30s now and City was pretty much all there was to do, it was relatively affordable to do the Kippax for £3 quid, even in the late 80s- mid 90s.

You went with your mates, it was you and your team against the world. There was a sense of tribalism, the edge needed to create an atmosphere in the first place.

The new generation of fan now has so much more disposable income, if it's not the cinema, it's gaming, gigs, whatever.

And those without such an income, are priced out altogether.

Football is now for the middle classes and above who convince themselves they are still working class, whatever the hell that meant in the first place.

The best atmospheres are still created by tension, fear, desperation or hate.

It was cheap, as you say, but also possible to just decide in the morning that you wanted to go to a game, go & queue up & get in. Loads of times I ended up going with a group of people who only decided to go because I was talking about the game before I went & they got an urge to see it , so came along.

I know loads of blues even now who were there regularly when we were shit but don't have memberships etc & haven't had since those days. They would all go to quite a few games if it wasn't for all the pissing about. They don't even know where to start, so just don't bother trying.

I think the other difference is that, because so few fans had season tickets, many of the less committed supporters just went to the high profile games. So a big cup game like tonight would be much more popular than a league game against Sunderland.
 
Where has this myth come from that you can't turn up and pay on the day? Anyone with a purchase history can turn up tonight and buy a ticket. If people dont want to go to the match thats there choice, but lets not pretend its difficult getting a ticket to the match.
 
According to the website 'The Stadium Ticket Office, located in City Square, is open from 9am and tickets will be available for qualifying supporters to buy in person, until 15 minutes after kick off. There will be no internet or telephone sales after 12pm on the day of the game'.......
 
bluesmith said:
Where has this myth come from that you can't turn up and pay on the day? Anyone with a purchase history can turn up tonight and buy a ticket. If people dont want to go to the match thats there choice, but lets not pretend its difficult getting a ticket to the match.

I tHink lots of people, me included, are a bit confused by the situation. I asked on here and got two different answers, went on official site and saw 'no tickets on the day' notice but only without buying history, and it wasn't prominent.

I used the phone and am collecting from the office tonight.
 
I always thought that the singing section should be in the corner next to the south stand, 120-122, so that it could be dedicated to people who just want to sing all match. Leave the lads that just want banter with the away fans to do what they want, they seem to worry about their 'image' or something and being too cool to act daft, so they stand there looking miserable with their arms folded staring at the match.

Once away from the away fans the new singing section would only really concentrate on the match, and recently since we're having about 70% of the possession and the center half's having most of that, it just seems the ripe game play style to just enjoy yourself with your fellow blues and cheer you're players on. The ultras movement would have to start in the lower leagues as it is happening at the moment, where ticket prices are cheap and the fanbase of most clubs have been whittled down to their core fans, for example middlesborough.

It's not like it's impossible either, just some fan coordination and a little help from the club can go a long way
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HeJe8GC024[/youtube]

I'm a big advocate of one end alsobut it's never going to change because of the location of the coach park and we can't just build an individual spiral for the away fans to get up to the third tier. Unless there is major redevelopment akin to changing the entire arrangement of outside the stadium, then they won't be moved
 
I'll be there but I'm still a bit p*ssed off. I'm 16 and it was £27.50. I sit in SS level 1 and I suppose compared to arsenal, chelsea etc it's a decent price. But Im gonna be struggling for madrid and Ajax now!
 

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