Attendances

[pardoeofftomexico]

This has probably been asked already, but does increasing the capacity mean that ticket prices will go down?

Interesting comment in the Independent about Liverpool increasing capacity in their new stand by 8,500 next season. They are hoping that it will generate revenue of £20M per season. According to my calculator that is £2,352 revenue per seat! The chief executive effectively said that although Liverpool is a working class club they cannot be squeamish about corporate seats if they are to be able to compete.

So as a response to your question I think the idea of expansion is to increase income considerably, in City's case not to by utilisiing the new build but by increasing the prices in level 2 of the CB stand in particular.

 

[Champions2012!]

Aren't City's ticket prices already the lowest in the league?

 

[Elbow beards]

This has probably been asked already, but does increasing the capacity mean that ticket prices will go down?

Not a cat in hells chance, thanks ffp

I disagree to be honest. The club realized that fans were voting with their feet in cup games and the champions league - hence the FA cup games being around £10-£15 and the BOGOF games.

I think the league games will stay similar because the club continues to sell out every game. But it will definitely have an effect on prices going up if they stadium doesn't sell out all the time.

ye, they might freeze or go up slowly, but IMO they aren't coming down for prem any time soon.

 

[JGL07]

This has probably been asked already, but does increasing the capacity mean that ticket prices will go down?

Not a cat in hells chance, thanks ffp

It certainly will involve a reduction in prices.

The current pricing strategy seems to involve setting prices to sell out the lesser matches on the actual day of the match or a day before. Previously a lot of matches have been sold out weeks ahead. This is now only happening for the likes of United, Chelsea, and Arsenal. The club are clearly using a revenue maximisation price strategy by setting the maximum price that will ensure all tickets are sold.

The numbers on the waiting list suggest that season tickets will be sold out with the higher capacity. That will remove aa fair chunk of the walk-up supporters so it will be harder to shift the remaining tickets. Also the visiting support allocation will increase. Very few teams take their full quota now so that could mean more reallocated to home support.

Hence the price for walk-up tickets will be reduced especially for low profile matches.

The empty seat stuff is of no consequence. People cannot always attend every match. They go on holiday, attend family weddings and the like. They can be taken ill, suffer from cancelled trains. They can even be stuck in traffic and only arrive after the EEN have taken their photographs.

There are often empty seats in the upper tier of the South Stand. How many of those belong to people who are standing with their mates on the lower tier?

 

[Wilf Wild 1937]

Just out of interest I know in the late 60s early 70s 63,000 was common place for the derby matches and the 81 quarter final attracted a crowd of 52,000. So can any older blues remember the season the capacity dropped as surely when we hit 54k that we be our largest home attendance since that season.

Im guessing 72/73?

The official capacity was still listed as 52,500 in the mid 80s when i started going - i'm a geek who remembers this stuff! My panini sticket album, city diaries, and city progs all listedi t as that and i used to be glued to them ;)

Not that we ever hit that mark i guess ;)

The quarter replay against Everton in 1981 attracted 52,532. It was the last time we officially topped 52,500.
The figure of 52,500 capacity was often quoted just like 48,000 is often incorrectly quoted for the Etihad (occasionally by the club).
The real capacity at that time was 52,600.

 

[cheddar404]

This has probably been asked already, but does increasing the capacity mean that ticket prices will go down?

Not a cat in hells chance, thanks ffp

It certainly will involve a reduction in prices.

The current pricing strategy seems to involve setting prices to sell out the lesser matches on the actual day of the match or a day before. Previously a lot of matches have been sold out weeks ahead. This is now only happening for the likes of United, Chelsea, and Arsenal. The club are clearly using a revenue maximisation price strategy by setting the maximum price that will ensure all tickets are sold.

The numbers on the waiting list suggest that season tickets will be sold out with the higher capacity. That will remove aa fair chunk of the walk-up supporters so it will be harder to shift the remaining tickets. Also the visiting support allocation will increase. Very few teams take their full quota now so that could mean more reallocated to home support.

Hence the price for walk-up tickets will be reduced especially for low profile matches.

The empty seat stuff is of no consequence. People cannot always attend every match. They go on holiday, attend family weddings and the like. They can be taken ill, suffer from cancelled trains. They can even be stuck in traffic and only arrive after the EEN have taken their photographs.

There are often empty seats in the upper tier of the South Stand. How many of those belong to people who are standing with their mates on the lower tier?

There's no reason why the visitor allocation should increase. We only have to give 3000 or 10% of the total capacity, whichever is lower.

 

[Aguero_Element]

sweet!

 

[Elbow beards]

This has probably been asked already, but does increasing the capacity mean that ticket prices will go down?

Not a cat in hells chance, thanks ffp

It certainly will involve a reduction in prices.

The current pricing strategy seems to involve setting prices to sell out the lesser matches on the actual day of the match or a day before. Previously a lot of matches have been sold out weeks ahead. This is now only happening for the likes of United, Chelsea, and Arsenal. The club are clearly using a revenue maximisation price strategy by setting the maximum price that will ensure all tickets are sold.

The numbers on the waiting list suggest that season tickets will be sold out with the higher capacity. That will remove aa fair chunk of the walk-up supporters so it will be harder to shift the remaining tickets. Also the visiting support allocation will increase. Very few teams take their full quota now so that could mean more reallocated to home support.

Hence the price for walk-up tickets will be reduced especially for low profile matches.

The empty seat stuff is of no consequence. People cannot always attend every match. They go on holiday, attend family weddings and the like. They can be taken ill, suffer from cancelled trains. They can even be stuck in traffic and only arrive after the EEN have taken their photographs.

There are often empty seats in the upper tier of the South Stand. How many of those belong to people who are standing with their mates on the lower tier?

Ye as you've said walk up tickets may, not season tickets, as pointed out there is a waiting list so basic supply and demand would dictate if they can get the maximum value they will. Lets not forget they are now in it to make as much money as possible. As i pointed out earlier the best i think we can hope for is a freeze.

 

[Henkeman]

Just out of interest I know in the late 60s early 70s 63,000 was common place for the derby matches and the 81 quarter final attracted a crowd of 52,000. So can any older blues remember the season the capacity dropped as surely when we hit 54k that we be our largest home attendance since that season.

Im guessing 72/73?

The official capacity was still listed as 52,500 in the mid 80s when i started going - i'm a geek who remembers this stuff! My panini sticket album, city diaries, and city progs all listedi t as that and i used to be glued to them ;)

Not that we ever hit that mark i guess ;)

The quarter replay against Everton in 1981 attracted 52,532. It was the last time we officially topped 52,500.
The figure of 52,500 capacity was often quoted just like 48,000 is often incorrectly quoted for the Etihad (occasionally by the club).
The real capacity at that time was 52,600.

Ah. I didn't think I'd misremembered 52,500. Now you've explained it.

 

[Danny Hoekman]

Aren't City's ticket prices already the lowest in the league?

No, not even close.

 

[waspish]

Aren't City's ticket prices already the lowest in the league?

No, not even close.

Which teams have the lowest?

 

[Scaring Europe to Death]

I don’t think any of us know the demand or supply for the tourist market, whether they be from abroad or fans of other clubs for the Champions League games etc

An Everton supporting mate of mine came to the Bayern Munich game and stayed at the Travelodge behind the Mecca bingo hall.
To be honest I wasn’t even aware that the Travelodge was there. However he told me that after the game it was full of out of town City fans.

Somebody has obviously done their homework.

 

[wahablue]

A recent(last two weeks) game,Barca v Ath Madrid,more than 20,000 empty seats.Don't know if it was League or Cup.Empty seats ,happen.

 

[SPIDERBOY]

A recent(last two weeks) game,Barca v Ath Madrid,more than 20,000 empty seats.Don't know if it was League or Cup.Empty seats ,happen.

Barca v elche last week,there was 27000 in attendance.......I make that just over 71000 empty seats.

 

[mrtwiceaseason]

Is the North Stand expansion definitely 100% happening?
Heard/read so much on here I honestly can't remember.

They have the planning permission to do it, but there are no immediate plans to expand the North Stand at present. I think they are planning on seeing how things go with the South Stand redevelopment in terms of demand for tickets etc before making a decision.

Not so sure on that can't see them losing the expertise gained and moving the plant etc .my guess is the decision is made already one way or the other.

 

[coleridge]

Is the North Stand expansion definitely 100% happening?
Heard/read so much on here I honestly can't remember.

They have the planning permission to do it, but there are no immediate plans to expand the North Stand at present. I think they are planning on seeing how things go with the South Stand redevelopment in terms of demand for tickets etc before making a decision.

Not so sure on that can't see them losing the expertise gained and moving the plant etc .my guess is the decision is made already one way or the other.

I am very confident that the North Stand will be developed soon after the South Stand is completed. I understand that it was always the plan.

As others have pointed out, it might not always be a sell out but there will be enough league and cup games to fill to 60-odd k to make it worthwhile in the long term.

The only point that is unclear to me is, if MCC own the stadium, who owns the expanded parts?

 

[inchy14]

Fuck off
Everyone knows we never sell out and there are at least 20,000 empty seats

It's down to the family stand. We all know it.

Thats it blame us again !!

Try going more than twice a season then...... :0)

 

[jayfx]

This may sound like a stupid question to most but what stops the club from buying all the unsold tickets themselves, then claiming it was a sell out?

 

[BufordUSABlue]

when we go to 54k there will be people in the mefia with their red pens desperate to circle any empty seats (i wouldn't let his paper anywhere the stadium but thats me) as there will of course be games that attract less fans. which is a shame. the bigger shame though is have a stadium with 8 thousand fans locked out, in fact its criminal, once bulit, the facility apart from a few extra staff costs the same to run so that extra 8000 fans are 99% sheer profit, not game after game cos that wont happen but many of the prem games and the cup games as the games reach the latter stages. that is a potential 8000 drinks, programmes, shirts and so on. if even a thousand of those 8 stick around as floaters we make more dosh, bearing mind the waiting list ready to buy seasoncards right now. so you tossers out there ready with your red pens go fuck yourself cos we are growing, we are winning titles , we are Manchester City. youv'e fucking lost. deal with it.

Love this Bill!

 

[blueinsa]

This may sound like a stupid question to most but what stops the club from buying all the unsold tickets themselves, then claiming it was a sell out?

The type of thing we are accused of doing on RAWK you mean?

Mmmmmm...........