Away tickets

Changes to an aside for a moment, why do city fans think it’s been harder and harder to get tickets to away matches in recent years?

I’ve been a season card holder for nearly 20 years. About 5-6 years ago I could easily get away tickets to everywhere bar United and maybe a couple of other aways. However I’m lucky now to have enough points to get a ticket at West Ham away. So why is that? Consequence of our success? Points system failing? More corporate?

I personally have no idea but it was clear something needed to be done.
The figures show it spiked, ie harder to get tickets, when they introduced the £30 cap. Last season was the easiest season to get tickets since before the cap was introduced.
 
5 or 6 years ago how many non manc / north west accents did you hear at away matches? How many Middle Eastern / oriental tourists did you see at away matches.

There’s your answer. Large chunks of our allocation being swallowed up by glory hunters who have joined far flung supporters clubs (and before I get pelters I know there’s plenty of out of towners who have put the years in and deserve tickets as much as anyone). Also hundreds siphoned off to corporate and legal ticket touts or finding their hands into associates of club staff and sponsors
Correct
Joes , additional boxes , tunnel club more sponsors
Meanwhile the real fans who were there in the darker days when no one was interested in putting money into our club now get penalised
 
Fantastic news if you're right. If I attend all 19 home premier league games I'll get another 380 points in addition to the 380 points I got for renewing. Pretty sure this isn't going to happen, but I'd love to be wrong.
No you’ll start off with 380 miss a game you’ll be docked 20 and so on
 
No. But I didn’t go to all away games I qualified for 5-6 years ago when I could get more tickets. My attendance back them stayed more or less the same; I used to go to about 3 - 5 away games a season. Last few years I’ve only managed probably an average of 2 a season because of ineligibility points-wise.

Now correct me if I’m wrong but you seem to be suggesting that you have increased your away attendance last 6 years? So the question is why are you attending more away matches? If it’s because we are more successful/entertaining now? If so then we can put it in the category of a consequence of our own success. Maybe that’s what a lot of people are doing?
Sorry mate, that’s just wrong, 15 away games were available for no points.
 
It’s some achievement to take an already flawed system and make it worse. Biggest gripe is the collection thing. Why would any supporters’ group go along with that?!
Said this right from the off.
Why would a Supporters group introduce Maggie’s ID cards!

Mind you, if you are against collection, you are just a points whore.
 
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Sorry mate, that’s just wrong, 15 away games were available for no points.

15 of the 20 away games in the PL required no points? Sorry I should have specified I was talking specifically about prem games.

Cups it's not worth comparing, we go much further in cups these days and thus there's more opportunity. I'm simple interested in why for away league matches it seems so much harder to get tickets.
 
No. But I didn’t go to all away games I qualified for 5-6 years ago when I could get more tickets. My attendance back them stayed more or less the same; I used to go to about 3 - 5 away games a season. Last few years I’ve only managed probably an average of 2 a season because of ineligibility points-wise.

Now correct me if I’m wrong but you seem to be suggesting that you have increased your away attendance last 6 years? So the question is why are you attending more away matches? If it’s because we are more successful/entertaining now? If so then we can put it in the category of a consequence of our own success. Maybe that’s what a lot of people are doing?

So now the 'mystery' is solved. You only went to 3-5 away games 6 years ago. There's nothing wrong with the system it just doesn't work for you because you weren't prepared to put in the effort.

I did increase my away attendance, about 10 years ago actually, I got the taste for it again. Glory hunter obviously (and irrelevantly).

The point is the system worked. I put in the effort you didn't. You fell back, I moved forward. Nothing complicated about it. You and I chose different approaches. No right or wrong here just a different set of choices.
 
15 of the 20 away games in the PL required no points? Sorry I should have specified I was talking specifically about prem games.

Cups it's not worth comparing, we go much further in cups these days and thus there's more opportunity. I'm simple interested in why for away league matches it seems so much harder to get tickets.
Six premier league away games went on general sale.
 

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