Away tickets

When we get to Champions League final will 18-25 get preference over fans with 22000 points ( for example )

If it’s anything to do with Thomas Fuck, we’ll be stuck at the Manchester Airport for 2 day’s, due to an administrational error.

As in, there’s not enough Aeroplane’s.
 
Someone mentioned earlier that we need representation like the Dippers do with SOS. We rightly slag them off for much of what they do but there is not a chance on earth that 6 or 7 supporters clubs reps would be allowed to shaft a majority of their support as we seem to let happen at City.

I don't know the answer but allowing this to happen cannot be it.

If we allow another 5% to be taken from the only legitimate part of the system whose to say where the other 55% will end up?

It's easy to look the other way when it doesn't impact on you … we only start getting angry when it impacts on us directly. Perhaps all of those (including those yet to be affected) need to make a stand because eventually it's coming your way. Plenty of us thought we were comfy 3 or 4 years ago … not so many now.
Allow me.....
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—

Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
 
As much as I praise the loyalty of those that have attended countless always over numerous seasons, we must also concede that the current system of loyalty points will forever reward and opportunise the same limited group of the top 3000 point holders!

On that basis, the point system has now become completely flawed, almost a cartel. We should recognise that and abandon points completely. All away tickets should for all future games be done on 50% advance ballot at 6 weeks prior to the fixture and 50% (after ballot result confirmed) on fastest finger first to ANY Seasoncard holder at 4 weeks prior to the fixture.

In short, regardless of what's gone before, watching away games cannot be exclusive to only those who have done so before.
 
A few years ago I used to go to pretty much all our away games and some.... especially in London the allocation of tickets got really "strange" and it was safe to say that the majority of the tickets ended up going to people who, I would be shocked if they had ever seen a live game before.
 
As much as I praise the loyalty of those that have attended countless always over numerous seasons, we must also concede that the current system of loyalty points will forever reward and opportunise the same limited group of the top 3000 point holders!

On that basis, the point system has now become completely flawed, almost a cartel. We should recognise that and abandon points completely. All away tickets should for all future games be done on 50% advance ballot at 6 weeks prior to the fixture and 50% (after ballot result confirmed) on fastest finger first to ANY Seasoncard holder at 4 weeks prior to the fixture.

In short, regardless of what's gone before, watching away games cannot be exclusive to only those who have done so before.

Don't agree with this whosoever and I'm on 17k points so what you propose would give me a better chance of big games and small allocations than I currently have.

A small percentage to ballot maybe but not the whole allocation. That'd ruin travel for pretty much every group of supporter.

Plus for me the top end of supporter deserve the opportunity of obtaining tickets before the rest because of the effort put in of which there's probably about 1000-1200.

I agree in the sense that every supporter should at least have an opportunity to attend a big game or small allocation every once in a while and a small allocation going to ballot would provide that opportunity.
 
Sorry mate Plymouth 3-2 defeat and Fulham 5-1 defeat there was enough room on the terraces for the fans to have a game of 5 aside if there'd been enough to pick from.

If you're talking about the Plymouth game I'm thinking about (weren't we 2 up and then lost 3-2 with Tommy Tynan scoring for them in the Paul Stewart days?), if so, itt was a midweek game, so hardly surprising there weren't many Blues there. A long way to Plymouth for an evening game. I had to take the day off work rent a car and drive down there as I couldn't get a train back.

Didn't get any points for it in those days though :-(
 
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If you're talking about the Plymouth game I'm thinking about (weren't we 2 up and then lost 3-2 with Tommy Tynan scoring for them in the Paul Stewart days?), if so, itt was a midweek game, so hardly surprising there weren't many Blues there. A long way to Plymouth for an evening game. I had to take the day off work rent a car and drive down there as I couldn't get a train back.

Didn't get any points for it in those days though :-(
the 3-2 we lost at Home Park after being 2-0 up was a Saturday game(the one Paul Stewart played in). However, I remember it clearly because the supporters club coach kept stopping at each service station to see if the game had been called off, most people thought there was no chance the game would be played there was so much flooding down there, don't think I have ever seen a pitch with so much sand on it
 
the 3-2 we lost at Home Park after being 2-0 up was a Saturday game. However, I remember it clearly because the supporters club coach kept stopping at each service station to see if the game had been called off, don't think I have ever seen a pitch with so much sand on it

I must be mixing 2 games up then. I didn't use to work weekends and for the game I'm thinking of, I remember having to take the day off work and drive down, so it must have been mid-week.
 
If you're talking about the Plymouth game I'm thinking about (weren't we 2 up and then lost 3-2 with Tommy Tynan scoring for them in the Paul Stewart days?), if so, itt was a midweek game, so hardly surprising there weren't many Blues there. A long way to Plymouth for an evening game. I had to take the day off work rent a car and drive down there as I couldn't get a train back.

There was a game at Plymouth on a Sat too that finished 3-2 when we were 2-0 up. I went to it and wouldn’t have done if it was midweek. The turnout that day was in line with most others of that era. In the 80’s we got as low as 18000 at home so it’s no surprise away crowds were fairly low on the whole and as there was trouble virtually everywhere, there were few women and kids in those days. I went to Fulham in the 00’s and it ended 0-0 I think. Can’t have been more than 1000 there for that one yet the season earlier on the Friday night sky game, the end was full. Similar numbers at Millwall and Palace

By 2000’s numbers were up. These were from 03/04 first season in new stadium.

Don’t know how many of these were sold out as not sure of the allocations but these are the numbers and weren’t loyalty points really taking off at this point?

Charlton 2552
Blackburn 4287
TNS 6499
Fulham 3031
Wolves 3082
Lokeren 4007
Chelsea 1486 (think we only had the lower tier due to the club only taking that)
QPR 2335 (midweek game in cup)
Southampton 3170
Newcastle 2950
Groclin 987
Spurs 2301 (midweek)
Everton 3048
Rags 3057
Birmingham 2714 (Friday night)
Pompey 2238
Leicester 1896 (wed)
Arsenal 2716
Spurs 1952 (treated to the 4/3 comeback)
Liverpool 3020
United cup 9045
Bolton 2803
(Stops there as my programme was for the next game)

I think most of those games would have been sell outs going off that.

Would be interesting to see how it looks in 07/08 under Pearce. Anyone got that programme?

Programme also has ST prices in for following season .

SS1 and 2 - £368
Most expensive - £525

Mine is SS3 is £655 this year which I guess would have been similar. so based on those prices, a rise of 78% over 15 years.
 

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