Balotelli (continued)

[TCIB]

In the long run it doesn't matter what they cost, that will have no bearing on whether they stay or go.

Might not play a bearing on whether or not a player stays or goes.

But it does play a part in expectation. You don't pay £20m for a player and willfully play the waiting game like simon23 has said.

Why?

Is it a rule that a 20 year old £20m signing has to be at his best straight away?

Phil Phuckwitt over at the rags cost nearly that much, they're not rushing him out the door.

Once a player is in the club the price you bought him for should have no bearing on whether you keep him or not.

Straight away ?

Come one Moomba, he has had 2 years.
He has not shown any noticable improvement at all.

Also yes it does have a bearing, if he is Balo's age you at least want to break even which we will do well to do.

If you feel the cost should have a bearing or not it is irrelevant, it does have a bearing.

To coin an american phrase we are not getting enough bang for our buck.

 

[moomba]

It only has a bearing because you want it to have a bearing.


He has scored 30 goals for us so I think people must be ignoring the good and focussing on the bad.

 

[bernabias home shirt]

It only has a bearing because you want it to have a bearing.


He has scored 30 goals for us so I think people must be ignoring the good and focussing on the bad.

How many league goals in 2 half years,non pens?

 

[moomba]

It only has a bearing because you want it to have a bearing.


He has scored 30 goals for us so I think people must be ignoring the good and focussing on the bad.

How many league goals in 2 half years,non pens?

I'm sure you'll tell me.

So is it penalties and deflected goals that don't count any more when it comes to certain players?

 

[bernabias home shirt]

It only has a bearing because you want it to have a bearing.


He has scored 30 goals for us so I think people must be ignoring the good and focussing on the bad.

How many league goals in 2 half years,non pens?

I'm sure you'll tell me.

So is it penalties and deflected goals that don't count any more when it comes to certain players?

He averages 8 goals a season in the league with his pens

 

[moomba]

Not bad for a fourth choice forward.

 

[BlueBlood84]

The without pens talk is bollocks, it's a skill. A skill that won us vital points on route to winning the title.
Shall we say how good is Silva without his assists?
Take away Zab's desire?
Or judge Hart without taking in his shot stopping ability?

Also 8 goals isn't bad for a 22 year old 3rd/4th choice striker.
Look through the history of the prem and show me a footballer at that age banging them in week in and week out.

RVP - Averaged 5 goals a season at Mario's age, did Arsenal fuck him off?
At what age did Drogba become a real force?
Tevez scores vital goals but has only scored more than 15 in two seasons.


Off the top of my head I can think of only players like Torres and Ronaldo who were consistently scoring at a young age (you can add Sergio last season, though it seems its taking him a while to find his feet this season)

If you look back over the past few seasons you'll see it's rare for players younger than 25 to be on the top 10 goalscorer list. Mario was the youngest on that list last year, and shock shock horror, most on the list were their clubs first choice penalty taker.

The year before the only young strikers on that list are Hernandez and Andy Carroll.
If you continue to look back a pattern emerges.

So what are we measuring Mario against?

 

[pudge]

In the long run it doesn't matter what they cost, that will have no bearing on whether they stay or go.

Might not play a bearing on whether or not a player stays or goes.

But it does play a part in expectation. You don't pay £20m for a player and willfully play the waiting game like simon23 has said.

Why?

Is it a rule that a 20 year old £20m signing has to be at his best straight away?

Phil Phuckwitt over at the rags cost nearly that much, they're not rushing him out the door.

Once a player is in the club the price you bought him for should have no bearing on whether you keep him or not.

Missing the point much?

He's had 2 years, he's 22, and shows virtually no sign of this 'world class' talent.

You do not play £20m on a player and after 2 years continue to play the waiting game like previously suggested, which is what I have a problem with.

 

[moomba]

Might not play a bearing on whether or not a player stays or goes.

But it does play a part in expectation. You don't pay £20m for a player and willfully play the waiting game like simon23 has said.

Why?

Is it a rule that a 20 year old £20m signing has to be at his best straight away?

Phil Phuckwitt over at the rags cost nearly that much, they're not rushing him out the door.

Once a player is in the club the price you bought him for should have no bearing on whether you keep him or not.

Missing the point much?

He's had 2 years, he's 22, and shows virtually no sign of this 'world class' talent.

You do not be £20m on a player and after 2 years continue to play the waiting game.

You've still not explained why

Whats important for us is what Mario can do going forward, not this week but for the rest of his career with us. What we paid for him, and what he's done for us in the past 2 years doesn't determine what he can do for us in the future.

I accept that you don't believe he will make a contribution for us going forward, and that is your right. But that's the reason you would want him gone, not because he cost £20m and only scored 30 goals for us in his first 2 and a half years.

FWIW Tranny scored 27 goals for the rags in his first 3 years, more than a few of their supporters wanted rid. He scored 90 in his next three seasons for them.

 

[BlueBlood84]

Might not play a bearing on whether or not a player stays or goes.

But it does play a part in expectation. You don't pay £20m for a player and willfully play the waiting game like simon23 has said.

Why?

Is it a rule that a 20 year old £20m signing has to be at his best straight away?

Phil Phuckwitt over at the rags cost nearly that much, they're not rushing him out the door.

Once a player is in the club the price you bought him for should have no bearing on whether you keep him or not.

Missing the point much?

He's had 2 years, he's 22, and shows virtually no sign of this 'world class' talent.

You do not play £20m on a player and after 2 years continue to play the waiting game like previously suggested, which is what I have a problem with.

His fee was over inflated, like a lot of the players we got at that time. Surely It's unfair to judge any player against an inflated fee.