Banning smoking in beer gardens

[hilts]

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I don't bother with people who won't admit their mistake, I can't make it any clearer.

BTW I don't vape I stated that earlier, you can't get anything right can you fuck nut.

 

[Marklr]

Because I am not wrong. But you go ahead and try quote the Vaping Association as you get chucked out a plane, train station, hospital etc. while the wider public around considers you an arsehole, and you proudly don't care. That's life.

You wouldn't get kicked out/off...they'd just tell you vaping isn't allowed on their premises. Fair enough, even though I don't agree, it's their rules. But it's NOT banned in public places by the GOV. like smoking is.

 

[Coatigan]

I don't bother with people who won't admit their mistake, I can't make it any clearer.

Well you clearly fucking do.

 

[hilts]

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[Marklr]

Cool. Start a campaign. Tbf we might gradually get there anyway.

In the meantime, ban smoking in beer gardens, enforce a ban on vaping where it is stated so, and it improves it for the majority. All good.

I'd start with the most harmful to the public(do what you want to yourself) and work my way down. Vaping probably wouldn't make the list as there is no way it can harm the public.

 

[mosssideblue]

I would go on to ban people that have consumed alcohol from being in the public. That drug causes so much harm to others.

Why are you being childish?

 

[Marklr]

Why are you being childish?

I'm not...I'm making a valid point. Alcohol causes so much harm yet people are crying about vapes smelling of strawberries in a beer garden.

 

[mosssideblue]

I'd start with the most harmful to the public(do what you want to yourself) and work my way down. Vaping probably wouldn't make the list as there is no way it can harm the public.

Asked you before what is your evidence to back up this claim

 

[mosssideblue]

I'm not...I'm making a valid point. Alcohol causes so much harm yet people are crying about vapes smelling of strawberries in a beer garden.

Sorry, but you are being childish

 

[Marklr]

Asked you before what is your evidence to back up this claim

It's steam, mate. Most of it evaporates before it can get to you. Steam that smells of strawberries.

 

[mosssideblue]

It's steam, mate. Most of it evaporates before it can get to you. Steam that smells of strawberries.

Ah, sorry didn’t realise the lead and other toxins in them are proven to be safe to humans. My bad

 

[Marklr]

Sorry, but you are being childish

If that's how you see it, I'm not bothered...I believe I'm making a valid point about what causes harm and what really...doesn't.
People pissed up in public, moaning about someone vaping? haha.

 

[mexico1970]

When someone farts on a bus near me on a bus now and it smells of cucumber I am moving seats.

 

[Marklr]

Ah, sorry didn’t realise the lead and other toxins in them are proven to be safe to humans. My bad

Negligible from the vapour. Prove that secondary vape causes any harm.

Is vaping harmful?

Research so far shows that legal e-cigarettes are far less harmful than smoking. But they are not risk-free and we don’t yet know their long-term effects.

www.cancerresearchuk.org

Is passive vaping harmful?​

There is no good evidence that second-hand vapour from e-cigarettes is harmful. As vaping is still relatively new, we can’t be sure there aren’t any long-term effects to people who breathe in someone else’s vapour. But this is unlikely to be harmful.

Passive vaping is not the same as passive smoking. This is because e-cigarettes do not contain tobacco.

 

[Blue Mist]

I will just throw this grenade in.
Far worse than smoking in a beer garden is gambling and yet not one political party will go near that. The physical and mental destruction that drug has caused outweighs a fag in a garden.

 

[mosssideblue]

Negligible from the vapour. Prove that secondary vape causes any harm.

You’re the one proclaiming it doesn’t and I’ve asked you twice to show evidence. The fact you haven’t says everything

 

[Marklr]

You’re the one proclaiming it doesn’t and I’ve asked you twice to show evidence. The fact you haven’t says everything

Negligible from the vapour. Prove that secondary vape causes any harm.

Is vaping harmful?​

Research so far shows that legal e-cigarettes are far less harmful than smoking. But they are not risk-free and we don’t yet know their long-term effects.

www.cancerresearchuk.org

Is passive vaping harmful?​

There is no good evidence that second-hand vapour from e-cigarettes is harmful. As vaping is still relatively new, we can’t be sure there aren’t any long-term effects to people who breathe in someone else’s vapour. But this is unlikely to be harmful.

Passive vaping is not the same as passive smoking. This is because e-cigarettes do not contain tobacco.

 

[Sheikh rattle and roll]

Find the evidence that it DOES harm people. I'm not talking about the people vaping, I mean the people stood around. There is no "secondary vape" fumes to inhale. It's basically steam.

But it stinks is rude and anti social

Breathe test the public. If they're over the limit in the street, fine them. Nuisances. It's the alcohol..it can turn gentle normal people into psychos. Very dangerous for others.

there is an offence of being drunk in a public place
Plus there is also a different offence of being drunk and disorderly

 

[MCFC Wirral]

I will just throw this grenade in.
Far worse than smoking in a beer garden is gambling and yet not one political party will go near that. The physical and mental destruction that drug has caused outweighs a fag in a garden.

Yet chain smoking and binge drinking old men waddle in and out of the bookies next door to the pub all day…

 

[Marklr]

But it stinks is rude and anti social

there is an offence of being drunk in a public place
Plus there is also a different offence of being drunk and disorderly

In your opinion. My vape is scent free. It's just a cloud that i breath out. How does that offend you?

Is there an offence for having alcohol in your blood and being in the public?