Barca v City Post Match Thread

Kazzydeyna said:
That's a fair point. And it frustrates me no end - how can you spend literally hundreds of millions of pounds and end up with a far weaker striking department than you had 2 years ago? It makes no sense and is so shortsighted as to be almost criminal.

We'll be fine this season but not getting out of this group, with these players, after strolling to the semis last year, after putting the club on hold for 4 years to land the manager we have now would be a disaster.
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From fine to disaster in one sentence. We're not run by Swales anymore, you know.
 
We just concede too many goals to be considered a contender in this competition.

14 times in our last 15 games we have conceded away in this comp and that just doesn't cut it.

Until we tighten up at the back and stop the child like mistakes we continually make we are just going through the motions and making up the numbers.

On top of that we were very poor with the final ball and shot once again that has plagued us over the past four games and if we don't address that we will drop points on Sunday as well.

Really testing times for Pep now as we say a work in progress after our worst defeat in this Competition to date.

Its been done like a dinner for a while now but ZAB , Kolorov , Clichy and Sagna all need to be replaced over the next 12 months as the game has passed them by at the top level at least.
 
hutton who blue said:
From fine to disaster in one sentence. We're not run by Swales anymore, you know.
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Yeah it didn't read properly did it? I meant I am still fully confident we will get through this group. I expect we will draw v Barca and win the next two. 11 points and through in second.

I'm not daft enough to absolutely guarantee it though and was just making the point that if we don't get through the group this year it would be a serious fuck up.
 
Kazzydeyna said:
Yeah it didn't read properly did it? I meant I am still fully confident we will get through this group. I expect we will draw v Barca and win the next two. 11 points and through in second.

I'm not daft enough to absolutely guarantee it though and was just making the point that if we don't get through the group this year it would be a serious fuck up.
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Or 10 points would be enough. Lose against Barca who everyone agree are special and beat the other two in our remaining games.
 
oakiecokie said:
Oh come on Guy. How were the tactics working that well that we were so negative in putting there back four under any pressure ?
On those occasions when we went forward (only in the first half) did we have a few players in the penalty area ??
Sorry mate but a poor selection and an even worse formation cost us.
I love Pep but IMO he fucked up good and proper o this occasion !!!
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The tactics were fine.

We made costly errors, again, that had sod all to do with tactics or formation.

I guess you could blame Pep for picking guys that made mistakes but no one would have left all of Dinho, Ota, Gundogan, Bravo, Stones and KDB out of that side so I'd suggest team selection was not the issue.

The squad needs further improvement but, in the meantime, Pep has to keep coaching the players in his way and the players have to try and to make less errors and better execute Pep's game plans.
 
Barcon said:
Eh? He kicked the ball out to touch about half a dozen times in the first half.
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Exactly, thats what bravo should have done, will he now be banned for the remaining games in this group. I think we played ok tonight but that mistake may come back to bite us.
 
mancity1 said:
We just concede too many goals to be considered a contender in this competition.

14 times in our last 15 games we have conceded away in this comp and that just doesn't cut it.

Until we tighten up at the back and stop the child like mistakes we continually make we are just going through the motions and making up the numbers.

On top of that we were very poor with the final ball and shot once again that has plagued us over the past four games and if we don't address that we will drop points on Sunday as well.

Really testing times for Pep now as we say a work in progress after our worst defeat in this Competition to date.

Its been done like a dinner for a while now but ZAB , Kolorov , Clichy and Sagna all need to be replaced over the next 12 months as the game has passed them by at the top level at least.
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They need to be replaced in January or else were winning fuck all. The only one I'd keep till the summer is Clichy.
 
I thought Pep set us up well. We were creating more goal scoring chances than Barca up until the sending off.

The score did not reflect how competitive we were for most of the game. We need to cut out the mistakes and finish the chances we create.
 
the blue panther said:
We made 2 bad mistakes & 1 slip, & got punished - as u would expect against the best - they are without doubt the best attacking front line in world football, so keep that perspective.
For 50 minutes, we looked like we could "live" with them - which is a first at the Nou Camp. For the first time, I felt we belonged there.
We have a few players struggling for fitness, and a couple who may be past it, but we played pretty much the best available team that he could.
Facts are that we remain top of the league, & will almost certainly qualify from this champs league group, as tonight was p pretty much a free hit. Come January, we will have Gabriel Jesus available, & he IS going to transform us. So, don't have nightmares; sleep well.
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Almost certainly qualify? How? Looks like we'll have to beat borussia away and that is not an easy ground to go to.
 
A little bit of perspective. They had the edge in attack(MSN is superior to every other attack in the world) but apart from that it was pretty even everywhere else with 11 men. The possession was also fairly even. Once Bravo went off it was all downhill but the performance up until that point was not bad at all. It was different from the previous years against Barca where the game was lost before it even started.
 
Everything was going well until the Bravo fuck up, had City been 2/3-1 up people couldn't have argued. We had the better chances and limited Barcelona to very little. Football is football and Bravo made a huge fuck up which cost us in the end what looks a beating.

I'm actually not that pissed off as I thought we did well.

Barcelona are soft cheating ****s as well.
 
And Otamendi. Not good enough.


We have one top class defender, Vincent K.

Stones if he was 25 rather than early 20's would not be good enough, but he has shown enough to indicate that he can become a top player, but purely down to the fact he is young, so great games follow bad & vice versa. Right now, he isn't a top class defender. Otamendi is proven average or below.

But irrespective, imo tonight was the best we have ever played in the Champs Lg, apart from the errors. By a long long way. The plan worked, the individuals didn't. We have had better defenders struggle worse due to shit setup. Tonight, was purely poor individual play.

We are outplaying pretty much every team we face, but are getting 'done' by nothing goals. Which is kind of how some of us would have expected tbf, but the start threw us into believing some players are better than they are. These are not unstoppable goals, they are not due to tactical or numerical or physical superiority, they are complete fuck ups. One after another. We have often stopped the difficult stuff & let in the stoppable.

Tonight the keeper joined in, again, but he wasn't to blame for the first or the third or the 4th or the pen, or responsible for the chance where a simple pass to Suarez right through the middle of our back 4 was enough to create a full on scoring chance which he saved, brilliantly. It's shit defending, largely by average or below average players, who are good one minute & shite the next. That goes in, which it will 8 times out of 10, & it's 2-0 without Bravo's fuckup. They also mised a free header prior to that due to nobody tracking a runer at a set piece, same move as Celtic but central.

All this whilst City are at least equal, maybe better in general play. It's shit defending, largely by average or below average defenders, who are good one minute & shite the next but have no instict for danger or acceleration to stamp it out. Which is why they are average defenders.

Barca's were just as bad tbf. Dogshit. Swap Silva for Messi & we win. But we don't have Messi, so we have to be better than Barca at the back. They have an advantage.

Barca did nothing to really merit a 2-0 by comparison to us & Celtic did nothing, to merit 2 goals, nor Everton a point etc

We are playing great football though, undermined by defensive mistakes & shite final ball.

Solving just one or the other, will win us the Prem. Solve both & we probably win everything inclusing the Champs League.

Solve neither & we will win fuck all.

And by the way folks, in the Celtic thread, I was right.

Our defending, is shit.

But we'll still win the league imo.
 
Lucky bastards the Catalans. Score flatters them. Messi was gifted by our own fuck ups three fucking times!!

KDB, Clichy, Kolarov, Stones not good. Nolito, Gundogan, Silva, Otamendi and Zabs okay. Great Willy still have the nous to stop penalties. Did Aguero touch the ball?

Had the Sheik make someone manufacture the Jimmy Grimble boots?
 
Tonight was a real downer. We played well for the most part but the scoreline and the manner of it feel like a real kick in the teeth.
 
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