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[liamctid]

I think he played against Sheff Utd.

1.06 per game over the course of the season would have seen us finish 16th.
1.40 per game over the course of the season would have seen us finish 10th.

Apologies. You're right mate - just checked back and he did play against Sheff Utd. I think he was supposed to have been banned originally but we appealed meaning he was free to play? that meant he was banned for the West Ham and Everton league games which we won and the FA Cup match at Sheffield Wednesday which we drew, winning the replay.

So it's a fact that we would have had a better season that year without Barton than with him?

 

[M18CTID]

Fucking hell, what a chip on your shoulder you have - even bring up the Villa penalty, when we were already safe.

Ok, so what about his penalty at home to Arsenal?

Explain how he almost took us down himself?

Dunne, Distin and Richards all had good seasons that year, but none of them provided anything going forward as they were all defenders.

Barton had to play with some of the biggest sacks of shit to ever wear the blue shirt that season; Reyna, Sinclair, Beasley, Trabelsi, Hamann (was fucking WOEFUL that year), Dabo, Dickov, Corradi, Samaras. The only saving grace we had was the odd performance from a childlike Ireland and Johnson playing in the last few games. Mpenza scored important goals, and Ball provided strength at left back. But throughout the whole season it was basically Joey vs 4 players as the rest we had were awful. I won't forget going away to Villa, Sheff United, West Ham, Fulham and knowing that HE made us play those days.

And as far as his comments go - what he said then is similar to whats going on now. He knows he's a good player, yet he is playing in a very unambitious club. Pearce was a fucking joke of a manager, and he knew it. He was speaking more as a fan than anyone.

Talk about putting your foot in it. Barton was suspended for the Sheffield United and West Ham away games after getting himself sent off at home to Bolton for violent conduct. The third game of his ban was the home fixture against Everton on New Year's Day 2007.

We won all 3 matches by the way.....

He definitely played against Sheff United, I can still see him jumping onto of Ireland when he scored. He didn't play against Sheff Wed the week later, we played Micah in midfield.

And as far as his comments go - what he said then is similar to whats going on now. He knows he's a good player, yet he is playing in a very unambitious club. Pearce was a fucking joke of a manager, and he knew it. He was speaking more as a fan than anyone.

That's why he's a cock of the highest order. Sorry, but the way he treated the club as if he was more intelligent and more special than anyone at it was ridiculous. He's doing the exact same thing now at Newcastle and he's fashioned himself a move away, again.

Publicly undermining the people who pay him to do his job? Do me a favour Joey and shut the fuck up. It's all well and good pretending to be the fans saviour, speaking how they feel, but where has it got him? He's more trouble than he's worth. Publicly slating the club on Twitter as oppose to speaking to someone in charge professionally? What did he expect?

Newcastle are absolutely right to throw him out. He's ruining their wage structure, like Nolan was, and more importantly, he's a cretin. Probably should remember he's an ex-con so deception should be a quality trait of his. They wouldn't even suffer much without him. They've got a decent team there and if they spent money wisely, they'll bring in a few good players on a lower wage. They're still rebuilding.

I know what you're saying, but I disagree with you. He is saying what he's said because he's passionate about succeeding. Forget about your hatred for Barton and look at it for pure footballing reasons:

Last season they looked comfortable in the top flight because of which players? Barton, Nolan and (for half a season) Carrol. They've forced all three out of the club. I can't knock the business they did for Carrol, but Barton is only saying what he's said from a fans perspective. They got £35 million from that transfer and where's it gone? In Ashleys pocket. As a fan, and a player in the squad it must be very frustrating.

And as he said this morning, it's not like he's trying to force a move and he'll stay if he wants.

As a user of Twitter, I think it's fantastic. I'd much rather see Barton speaking at his anger of the NUFC board, Rooney posting drivel when he's pissed, Micah telling Spurs fans that he's not moving because he's "ctid". Much better and interesting than speculating behind the scenes stuff.

Yep, you're right - he did play against Sheff U so I take that back. He didn't play at West Ham though!

Look, Barton was an important player at the time for us but he wasn't the be-all and end-all. We proved we could win games without him - even against our bogey team Everton - and I think his worth to the team is over-stated in some quarters, not least by Barton himself.

-- Wed Aug 03, 2011 9:58 am --

I think he played against Sheff Utd.

1.06 per game over the course of the season would have seen us finish 16th.
1.40 per game over the course of the season would have seen us finish 10th.

Apologies. You're right mate - just checked back and he did play against Sheff Utd. I think he was supposed to have been banned originally but we appealed meaning he was free to play? that meant he was banned for the West Ham and Everton league games which we won and the FA Cup match at Sheffield Wednesday which we drew, winning the replay.

So it's a fact that we would have had a better season that year without Barton than with him?

Nobody knows either way but we did okay when he wasn't playing.

 

[liamctid]

Talk about putting your foot in it. Barton was suspended for the Sheffield United and West Ham away games after getting himself sent off at home to Bolton for violent conduct. The third game of his ban was the home fixture against Everton on New Year's Day 2007.

We won all 3 matches by the way.....

He definitely played against Sheff United, I can still see him jumping onto of Ireland when he scored. He didn't play against Sheff Wed the week later, we played Micah in midfield.

That's why he's a cock of the highest order. Sorry, but the way he treated the club as if he was more intelligent and more special than anyone at it was ridiculous. He's doing the exact same thing now at Newcastle and he's fashioned himself a move away, again.

Publicly undermining the people who pay him to do his job? Do me a favour Joey and shut the fuck up. It's all well and good pretending to be the fans saviour, speaking how they feel, but where has it got him? He's more trouble than he's worth. Publicly slating the club on Twitter as oppose to speaking to someone in charge professionally? What did he expect?

Newcastle are absolutely right to throw him out. He's ruining their wage structure, like Nolan was, and more importantly, he's a cretin. Probably should remember he's an ex-con so deception should be a quality trait of his. They wouldn't even suffer much without him. They've got a decent team there and if they spent money wisely, they'll bring in a few good players on a lower wage. They're still rebuilding.

I know what you're saying, but I disagree with you. He is saying what he's said because he's passionate about succeeding. Forget about your hatred for Barton and look at it for pure footballing reasons:

Last season they looked comfortable in the top flight because of which players? Barton, Nolan and (for half a season) Carrol. They've forced all three out of the club. I can't knock the business they did for Carrol, but Barton is only saying what he's said from a fans perspective. They got £35 million from that transfer and where's it gone? In Ashleys pocket. As a fan, and a player in the squad it must be very frustrating.

And as he said this morning, it's not like he's trying to force a move and he'll stay if he wants.

As a user of Twitter, I think it's fantastic. I'd much rather see Barton speaking at his anger of the NUFC board, Rooney posting drivel when he's pissed, Micah telling Spurs fans that he's not moving because he's "ctid". Much better and interesting than speculating behind the scenes stuff.

Yep, you're right - he did play against Sheff U so I take that back. He didn't play at West Ham though!

Look, Barton was an important player at the time for us but he wasn't the be-all and end-all. We proved we could win games without him - even against our bogey team Everton - and I think his worth to the team is over-stated in some quarters, not least by Barton himself.

-- Wed Aug 03, 2011 9:58 am --

Apologies. You're right mate - just checked back and he did play against Sheff Utd. I think he was supposed to have been banned originally but we appealed meaning he was free to play? that meant he was banned for the West Ham and Everton league games which we won and the FA Cup match at Sheffield Wednesday which we drew, winning the replay.

So it's a fact that we would have had a better season that year without Barton than with him?

Nobody knows either way but we did okay when he wasn't playing.

That Everton result was down to the genius and trickery of Samaras.

 

[M18CTID]

He definitely played against Sheff United, I can still see him jumping onto of Ireland when he scored. He didn't play against Sheff Wed the week later, we played Micah in midfield.



I know what you're saying, but I disagree with you. He is saying what he's said because he's passionate about succeeding. Forget about your hatred for Barton and look at it for pure footballing reasons:

Last season they looked comfortable in the top flight because of which players? Barton, Nolan and (for half a season) Carrol. They've forced all three out of the club. I can't knock the business they did for Carrol, but Barton is only saying what he's said from a fans perspective. They got £35 million from that transfer and where's it gone? In Ashleys pocket. As a fan, and a player in the squad it must be very frustrating.

And as he said this morning, it's not like he's trying to force a move and he'll stay if he wants.

As a user of Twitter, I think it's fantastic. I'd much rather see Barton speaking at his anger of the NUFC board, Rooney posting drivel when he's pissed, Micah telling Spurs fans that he's not moving because he's "ctid". Much better and interesting than speculating behind the scenes stuff.

Yep, you're right - he did play against Sheff U so I take that back. He didn't play at West Ham though!

Look, Barton was an important player at the time for us but he wasn't the be-all and end-all. We proved we could win games without him - even against our bogey team Everton - and I think his worth to the team is over-stated in some quarters, not least by Barton himself.

-- Wed Aug 03, 2011 9:58 am --

So it's a fact that we would have had a better season that year without Barton than with him?

Nobody knows either way but we did okay when he wasn't playing.

That Everton result was down to the genius and trickery of Samaras.

I'm not sure where this is going LOL - Samaras did indeed have a good game that day but that's irrelevant to the point being made which is that we won the game (and the West Ham away game a couple of days beforehand) without Barton in the side.

 

[liamctid]

Yep, you're right - he did play against Sheff U so I take that back. He didn't play at West Ham though!

Look, Barton was an important player at the time for us but he wasn't the be-all and end-all. We proved we could win games without him - even against our bogey team Everton - and I think his worth to the team is over-stated in some quarters, not least by Barton himself.

-- Wed Aug 03, 2011 9:58 am --



Nobody knows either way but we did okay when he wasn't playing.

That Everton result was down to the genius and trickery of Samaras.

I'm not sure where this is going LOL - Samaras did indeed have a good game that day but that's irrelevant to the point being made which is that we won the game (and the West Ham away game a couple of days beforehand) without Barton in the side.

I was half joking - the words genius and Samaras cannot go together. However he did score a good goal against Everton.

Did you think on that cold New Years day in 2007 that 4 years later, that result would be talked about on a City forum despite us going on to win the FA Cup, qualify for the Champions League and sign players for close to £40 million?

 

[blue b4 the moon]

That Everton result was down to the genius and trickery of Samaras.

I'm not sure where this is going LOL - Samaras did indeed have a good game that day but that's irrelevant to the point being made which is that we won the game (and the West Ham away game a couple of days beforehand) without Barton in the side.

I was half joking - the words genius and Samaras cannot go together. However he did score a good goal against Everton.

Did you think on that cold New Years day in 2007 that 4 years later, that result would be talked about on a City forum despite us going on to win the FA Cup, qualify for the Champions League and sign players for close to £40 million?

What I didn't think was that would be the last home goal scored in the season!!!!

As for Barton/Newcastle, apart from a few of their fans (remember them singing 'We've got joey Barton na na na na' and our reply 'You've got Joey Barton ha ha ha ha' .

Was always a marriage made in hell.

 

[M18CTID]

That Everton result was down to the genius and trickery of Samaras.

I'm not sure where this is going LOL - Samaras did indeed have a good game that day but that's irrelevant to the point being made which is that we won the game (and the West Ham away game a couple of days beforehand) without Barton in the side.

I was half joking - the words genius and Samaras cannot go together. However he did score a good goal against Everton.

Did you think on that cold New Years day in 2007 that 4 years later, that result would be talked about on a City forum despite us going on to win the FA Cup, qualify for the Champions League and sign players for close to £40 million?

He was an uncut diamond remember ;) Actually, I thought he looked very promising in the second part of the 05-06 season after he signed but much of that promise all but disappeared the following season aside from the odd memorable moment such as his 2 goals against West Ham and his performance in that Everton match.

With regards to your second point, I like to think that those of us who were around for the bad times can still reminisce about them when things are as good as they are at the moment. I think it's important to remember where we've come from, and while I'm not casting aspersions about certain other clubs not a million miles away some of their older lot do seem to conveniently forget that they used to be shit too.