Belgian Fans (merged)

It's a pretty weird logic you use regarding the deffinition of entitlement. A Pecking order practicly by definition is about one above the other, while having no point system at all would imply a more level playing field. Lets take an analogy of a supermarket where one buys more than another customer, and then would argue that he should get priority in the waiting line before an other because of it. Well that stuff doesn't get done really, although the arguement could be that a more loyal customer should always be first in line.

From a nuanced view i can understand the reasoning behind a point system, epecially if the club finds its stadium often not filled enough and would want to stimulate sales by that way. In analogy that would be the same as that supermarket allowing loyal customers to get in front of the line if it would consider that this would stimulate it's revenue further. However eitheway it would never be up to the customer to decide on that policy, the policy would exist or not by the grace of the management.

It's not youre football club, it's not the football club of anyone here. And somehow i get the impression that some people consider that some fans here are "higher in level" than others somehow, as if you wee a level 10 fan and i a level 1 fan.But do you really believe that new fans would want to subscribe to that notion, as if they would need to shup up when the veterans take the word whatever nonsense might flow from their mouths? Personally i consider myself pretty much the equal here of anyone else regardless of how muchg matches i went too, and in my view whoever person here things he is a higher level fan than the other has made those standards for his own sake of prestige and bennifit but would be naive to think that the majority would want to recognise it.

But i won't say the point system has to go, imho it's all up to the club, and simmilarly so if they decide to neglect it, and you should take it up with them and not with the people who gratefully take the opportunity when it presents itself. Do you really lack so much emphaty to understand that foreign fans really don't care for that point system, and will feel no remorse for taking the opportunity when it presents itself? You know, if those 200 Belgians hadn't bought those tickets, likely another 200 Belgians would have and taken their place.

When you say this is not your club you do cause offence my friend albeit unintentionally.
To many but not most this is not just sport but a passion that goes beyond any rational of the word passion .
On a fan level I love and adore City but it is not my whole life.No it is not .
I think about city every day and I try to attend as many games as possible given the nature of my job.
Saturday games are incredibly difficult and I have to return immediately back to work.
With circa 5000 points I can achieve most away games sometimes with the help of some fine characters who inhabit this blessed and hallowed circle we all move in.

Where do I exist on a fan level-ometer...call me a good respectable 7.75 if you please (beams with pride)
There are people at our club however that inhale infuse and actually breath City.
It flows and ebbs throughout their veins like some tidal river permeating into the corpuscles of their minds eye !
It goes beyond passion my good friend and beyond the explainable.
Holidays family and work commitments,fraternity and life itself all take a back seat to accommodate the persuate of this dream.
Nineteen aways and nineteen homes with friendly s and cup ties and non are ever missed.
These veterans of many a campaign who stay to the end and travel in pissing rain and hail sleet and snow and are the veritable pulse of this club.
They actually do merit recognition and reward from the hierarchy and were rightly disenchanted when the bean counters introduced platinum.
I know of one fine supporter who was taken very ill many many years back and would not allow the stretcher bearers to remove
him from the ground until the penalty was taken and converted.A brilliant human being and a pleasure to find myself in his occasional company.
So yes this is their club and it is our club and it is my club and the club of our new member's who continue to swell our ranks and procreate our continued expansion into utter brilliance.
This fine club does not own the club and our players only borrow their shirts that we ever so kindly lend to them.
It will always be the supporters and fanbase that own this club.
Merry Christmas Flemish man and I hope to see you at Sunderland away on a cold and wet midweek night for a stein or two of your Belgian Artois.
Reassuringly expensive.
Adios I have to go now because it double taxi fare time in ten minutes oh yes indeed
 
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When you say this is not your club you do cause offence my friend albeit unintentionally.
To many but not most this is not just sport but a passion that goes beyond any rational of the word passion .
On a fan level I love and adore City but it is not my whole life.No it is not .
I think about city every day and I try to attend as many games as possible given the nature of my job.
Saturday games are incredibly difficult and I have to return immediately back to work.
With circa 5000 points I can achieve most away games sometimes with the help of some fine characters who inhabit this blessed and hallowed circle we all move in.

Where do I exist on a fan level-ometer...call me a good respectable 7.75 if you please (beams with pride)
There are people at our club however that inhale infuse and actually breath City.
It flows and ebbs throughout their veins like some tidal river permeating into the corpuscles of their minds eye !
It goes beyond passion my good friend and beyond the explainable.
Holidays family and work commitments,fraternity and life itself all take a back seat to accommodate the persuate of this dream.
Nineteen aways and nineteen homes with friendly s and cup ties and non are ever missed.
These veterans of many a campaign who stay to the end and travel in pissing rain and hail sleet and snow and are the veritable pulse of this club.
They actually do merit recognition and reward from the hierarchy and were rightly disenchanted when the bean counters introduced platinum.
I know of one fine supporter who was taken very ill many many years back and would not allow the stretcher bearers to remove
him from the ground until the penalty was taken and converted.A brilliant human being and a pleasure to find myself in his occasional company.
So yes this is their club and it is our club and it is my club and the club of our new member's who continue to swell our ranks and procreate our continued expansion into utter brilliance.
The club does not own the club and the players only borrow their shirts we ever so kindly lend to them.
It will always be the supporters and fanbase that own this club.
Merry Christmas Flemish man and I hope to see you at Sunderland away on a cold and wet midweek night for a stein or two of your Belgian Artois.
Reassuringly expensive.
Adios I have to go now because it double taxi fare time in ten minutes oh yes indeed
Superb post .
 
Taximania said:
I think about city every day and I try to attend as many games as possible given the nature of my job.

For reasons of peacepipesmoking ill choose my reply's sellectivly. I know the feeling mate, i can't wait to see the next City match. ;)

Taximania said:
Merry Christmas Flemish man and I hope to see you at Sunderland away on a cold and wet midweek night for a stein or two of your Belgian Artois.
Reassuringly expensive.

Ill let you in on a secret, our export beers is are not the ones we'd rather keep all to ourselfs. Remind me to take a crate of that extremely exclusive Westvleteren 12° with me, reassuringly expensive would be an understatement. I'm sure i could say a lot of shit and still make friends with that.

Merry Christmass to you to. No sour grapes here.
 
I've rationalised that the best way to continue to guarantee myself prestige away tickets is to join the Belgium Supporters Club!
 
Flemish , you might have dropped a bollock offering Taximania a crate of Westvleteren 12 ..
He is Bluemoon"s beer expert who will no doubt take you up on the offer ... I will be 1st sub if he can't make it :)
 
Flemish. Your kind simply follow the club not support it.

Ill try to buy up an airliner so i can be in Manchester every week.

sky tot said:
Flemish , you might have dropped a bollock offering Taximania a crate of Westvleteren 12 ..
He is Bluemoon"s beer expert who will no doubt take you up on the offer ... I will be 1st sub if he can't make it :)

I'm from Ypres so that brewery is only 10km's away from here, queue's get rather epic though, no way youre going to get faster in line neither.
 
The thing is that I see it as a mark of our hospitality that these tourists can get tickets to our games and take up seats for real supporters. Try wearing half and half scarves in Amsterdam, Buenos Aires, Naples, Rome, São Paulo, Warsaw or Moscow and see where it gets you. What happens in terms of rivalry in those places goes far and beyond what we call competitiveness. However, I think we have it right and unfortunately the price we pay for that is that we sacrifice space for those loyal to the club, distasteful as it seems.

Personally, I don't mind if we have to take in some clueless half wits who came along because we've now been added to the brochures they flick through when checking what to do in Manchester.

I was at the Ajax game at our ground a couple of seasons ago and I was sat next to some Dutch fans who were being very vocal and openly critical about both our team and English football in general and I just ignored it for as long as I could before telling them to simply "shut the fuck up". They clearly didn't think they were doing anything wrong but acquiesced when they realised I wasn't the only one sick of them talking shit.

They're the same as most tourists (we're fucking awful for it), many are ill mannered, show little respect for house rules and act like everyone else is also on holiday until someone tells them different.
 

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