LOL okay I'm confused. Please tell me:
1) what exactly is Bernardo's best position?
2) what position do you personally think he is going to /should play long-term?
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LOL okay I'm confused. Please tell me:
1) what exactly is Bernardo's best position?
2) what position do you personally think he is going to /should play long-term?
oakiecokie
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It appears that Ezzy has an opinion on everything. ;)Ezzy mate, get back to your football manager games lad because real football and real facts is obviously not for you.
Bernardo said in the interview you quoted he is comfortable playing on the right offensively and in the middle of the park as an 8. He said both are where he feels most comfortable. He had barely if ever played central midfield before coming to City and his best time in a City shirt, the 2019 run in, he was playing 99% of it on the RW. He is a very good central midfielder. He is a very good attacking midfielder ON THE RIGHT. Like he said in the interview you quote.
If you want to keep ignoring this, thats fine, but maybe this forum is not for you.
@twosips
The guy literally says that he has played all of his career at:
"That's where I feel more comfortable"
- offensive midfielder ( Attacking Midfielder)
- number 8 ( Central Midfielder)
playing RW in a Pep team means being isolated by the touchline for long parts of a game.
Bernardo's dribbling + his close control is the main reason Pep puts him on the RW and not Kevin.
Kevin's position:
we do not play the same way as Monaco you know that right?
I like the bit where you cut out the fact that he said on the right.
"right side as an offensive midfielder, or number 8. That's where I feel more comfortable."
He quite clearly means a right winger and as an 8, unless you think he's just describing the same position twice for no apparent reason and acting as if they're different.
offensive midfielder <--> Attacking Midfielder"right side as an offensive midfielder, or number 8. That's where I feel more comfortable."
He quite clearly means a right winger and as an 8.
(number 10)
number 8 <--> Central Midfielder
(number 8)
He is quite clearly talking about Attacking & Central Midfield....
as a winger Bernardo has mediocre end product.
(compared to his end product thru the middle)
You play Kevin or Foden on the wings week in week out like Bernardo and they will have mediocre end product too.
(compared to their end product thru the middle)
Kevin & Bernardo both play on the right side. But we only have David (and soon Foden) that can partner them on the left. That is Bernardo's problem
(Aouar & Foden gives us two new 10/8 on the left)
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I see we're still pretending Aouar is "100%" despite having no agreement (or negotiations?) with the selling club yet.offensive midfielder <-- right side
Attacking Midfielder <-- right side (number 10)
number 8 <-- right side
Central Midfielder <-- right side (number 8)
He is quite clearly talking about Attacking & Central Midfield....
as a winger Bernardo has mediocre end product.
(compared to his end product thru the middle)
You play Kevin or Foden on the wings week in week out like Bernardo and they will have mediocre end product too.
(compared to their end product thru the middle)
Kevin & Bernardo both play on the right side. But we only have David (and soon Foden) that can partner them on the left. That is Bernardo's problem
(Aouar & Foden gives us two new 10/8 on the left)
kun
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offensive midfielder <--> Attacking Midfielder
(number 10)
number 8 <--> Central Midfielder
(number 8)
He is quite clearly talking about Attacking & Central Midfield....
Isn’t it just brilliantly awful when someone is this patronising and wrong at the same time.
offensive midfielder <--> Attacking Midfielder
(number 10)
number 8 <--> Central Midfielder
(number 8)
He is quite clearly talking about Attacking & Central Midfield....
as a winger Bernardo has mediocre end product.
(compared to his end product thru the middle)
You play Kevin or Foden on the wings week in week out like Bernardo and they will have mediocre end product too.
(compared to their end product thru the middle)
Kevin & Bernardo both play on the right side. But we only have David (and soon Foden) that can partner them on the left. That is Bernardo's problem
(Aouar & Foden gives us two new 10/8 on the left)
I don't even know where to start with this misinterpretation. You're only young I presume so i'll leave it there. You do you mate, but it really is blindingly obvious to anyone who's read that article what Bernardo meant.
Yes it is Kun, I agree. Now which one of us are you talking about again?Isn’t it just brilliantly awful when someone is this patronising and wrong at the same time.
@OliMCFC @twosips my apologies if I'm wrong(and patronizing). I just didn't realize that:
- "right offensive midfielder,"
- "or number 8"
"right side as an offensive midfielder, or number 8. That's where I feel more comfortable."
He quite clearly means a right winger and as an 8,
Because the manager & I seem to both think that Silva is a No 10, it's his natural position.
February 2019At 24 Silva is the future and present of City, a player Guardiola can play in at least four positions.
Silva has actually operated in five: as a winger, wing-back, central midfielder, false No 9 and trequartista, which his manager views as Silva’s best position. It is unclear where he will be deployed for Sunday’s Carabao Cup final against Chelsea.
“I think as a No 10 behind the striker [is his natural game] but as a winger he can move inside, stay wide, he can play in all positions in the middle, attacking positions – he can play three or four positions,” Guardiola says.
Which is relevant to what I posted earlier:
Just because he can play on the wings does not mean he is productive there. Numbers back that up.
How do you think Kevin's season would go if he was primarily rotated on the right wing with Mahrez?
with Bernardo playing Kevin's role in midfield instead?
now imagine Kevin enduring that for the best part of 1 year and a half.
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I still see him as Dave's replacement as our left sided No 8 with KDB on his right and Rodri as No 6. He needs more games in that position to get used it.
Fame Monster
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Bernardo was consistently switching between midfield and right wing last season and he was putting in top class performances in both positions. Why is it affecting him now?
I wouldn't say he was consistently switched last season. By and large, he played the first part of the season in CM and the second part of the season as RW.
This season, like a lot of other players, he's been played in a different position in a different formation, and in and out of the team nearly every week.
That has to be one of the hardest things a player can do, and be expected to perform well.
I think Bernardo is probably more versatile than most but even then, there's a limit if it's constant week-in, week-out tinkering for the sake of it.
LOL okay I'm confused. Please tell me:
1) what exactly is Bernardo's best position?
2) what position do you personally think he is going to /should play long-term?
1. I think Bernardo's played the majority of his best games for City at RW - 4-3 v Spurs CL, Old Trafford April19 Jan2020, Fulham 2-0 2019
That's not to say I don't think he's been a brilliant CM - Liverpool Jan19 was his best game in a City shirt by a mile, but he doesn't have that same eye for goal or an assist there as Kevin does. He'd need to be surrounded by goalscorers as he was at CM.
2. I think he'll probably be staying on the RW and deputising for KDB at RCM. Maybe playing Rodri and Bernardo behind Kevin in a 4-2-3-1 would be a great way to have his midfield energy and pressing utilised whilst not dropping the best midfielder in the world.
Bernardo has too much talent to be a backup option and in the run in last season he was imperious with Raheem on the wings. He can get back to that
I wouldn't say he was consistently switched last season. By and large, he played the first part of the season in CM and the second part of the season as RW.
This season, like a lot of other players, he's been played in a different position in a different formation, and in and out of the team nearly every week.
That has to be one of the hardest things a player can do, and be expected to perform well.
I think Bernardo is probably more versatile than most but even then, there's a limit if it's constant week-in, week-out tinkering for the sake of it.
And he did it last year while not losing any of his touch, any of his workrate or any of his general exuberance that makes him stand out. Those things have deserted him since day one of the season this year for some reason. I don't think it's a positional problem. His whole demeanour seems to have changed. The energy from his game has gone, and that's not because he's playing in different positions, in my opinion of course.
I wouldn't say he was consistently switched last season.
By and large:
He played the first part of the season in CM.
He played the second part of the season as RW.
That's not to say I don't think he's been a brilliant CM - Liverpool Jan19 was his best game in a City shirt by a mile, but he doesn't have that same eye for goal or an assist there as Kevin does.
August 8th 2018 to January 13th 2019
5 Goals
6 Assists
January 14th 2019 to May 12th 2019
2 Goals
2 Assist
Fame Monster
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And he did it last year while not losing any of his touch, any of his workrate or any of his general exuberance that makes him stand out. Those things have deserted him since day one of the season this year for some reason. I don't think it's a positional problem. His whole demeanour seems to have changed. The energy from his game has gone, and that's not because he's playing in different positions, in my opinion of course.
I don't think he was asked to change position anywhere near as often last season and I think being asked to change position so often this season has contributed to his poor form but I agree that it's probably not the whole reason because he hasn't looked as fit or fast this season. Mahrez playing so well has meant he's been out of the side more often and for whatever reason, Pep seems to prefer Gundogan playing as an 8 no matter how many times we get beat with him there so Bernardo doesn't get much of a go there.
That said, I'd just be a bit hasty to over-analyse his performances this season, especially ones after the restart.
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Works his bollocks off, but has mostly been very average this season. With Foden's coming of age he needs to find his 18/19 form sharp-ish
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He's best game in a long time. Working really hard all over the pitch. And the first goal since november? Finaly he plays the role that fits him the best.
jay_mcfc
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That's definitely his best position but it's getting him games there that's the problem.
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