Bernardo Silva tweet controversy

[Fame Monster]

If the milky bar kid was seen as a racist and offensive cartoon then the two scenarios would be the same.

1. How many people see the modern day character as a racist cartoon? I'd guess very few in Portugal, more in England, and maybe more in the past but the name has changed, the advertising has changed, and there's a white equivalent too. If Bernardo doesn't think it's racist, apologising allows a precedent to be set where it becomes less acceptable to joke about =when reasonable people can disagree about whether it actually is racist.

2. If I told you I found the milky bar kid to be offensive or racist, does it make it unacceptable to joke about it especially when the person you're using it as a comparison with (presumably like Mendy) doesn't find it racist or offensive? Why should you cede any ground to me, just because I find it offensive?

 

[Tugay One Cup]

Fucking wow. Why would wherever I live mean that I live in a glass house for having an opinion on a fucking tweet. Why would wherever I live mean I can’t have an opinion on anything?

The point, whether you missed it or are deliberately avoiding it, is that it could be argued that you're a hypocrite for implying others must have easy lives to disagree with you on the matter. Like I said, I'm sure you have your struggles but let's not pretend you don't have a lot of spare time yourself.

And fwiw, having a decent career or being financially comfortable doesn’t shield anyone from the realities of life and death or seriously ill family members. But way to go playing the man rather than the ball.

Which, again, I never said. A bit of self awareness on your part would help you realise that you're arguing against yourself here.

A successful career doesn't equate to a worry free life and neither does getting pissed off by an ignorant tweet. Wasn't it you who mentioned generalisations a couple of pages ago?

I honestly didn't mean to press your buttons but I've clearly gotten close so I'll leave it there. My apologies.

 

[domalino]

But he didn’t make a racist joke, he made a joke about similarity, naive but not racist. Also I don’t see how someone making a racist joke isn’t racist?

You can make a racist joke without being a racist, that should be obvious.

 

[Decepticon]

Lads and lasses, can we stop with the false equivalence.

I'm not offended, I'm not a snowflake but I can understand that people find imagery that was historically used to demean a race offensive.

Bernardo was naive, that's all, he should apologise to anyone who took offence and move on.

Last thing, if the FA ignore the context and ban him for this they are a shower of ****s.

If they ban him for this it's to help Liverpool win the league. Anyone who believe otherwise is a naive ****.

 

[BringBackSwales]

You can make a racist joke without being a racist, that should be obvious.

Obvious bollocks

 

[Machiavelli]

Still love the idea of a bunch of older blokes living in a bubble calling everyone soft arses despite daily cries of unfair treatment from just about everyone outside of the club on the media thread.

Everyone's out to get you whether it's restricting your freedom of speech or trying their best to destroy City from the outside. And I bet you call Liverpool fans victims.

You're a parody of yourselves.

I always find these types tend to make the most noise when anything like this happens. They also seem to be the most faux outraged as well, which is somewhat ironic.

 

[bluemooners09]

If you want to see what racism is watch Bernard Manning on youtube that will put Silvas tweet in perspective.

 

[Machiavelli]

No a so called City fan that sits on redcafe blowing smoke up the rags arses and slags City and its fans off.

You seem to know a lot about him.

 

[domalino]

1. How many people see the modern day character as a racist cartoon? I'd guess very few in Portugal, more in England, and maybe more in the past but the name has changed, the advertising has changed, and there's a white equivalent too. If Bernardo doesn't think it's racist, apologising allows a precedent to be set where it becomes less acceptable to joke about =when reasonable people can disagree about whether it actually is racist.

2. If I told you I found the milky bar kid to be offensive or racist, does it make it unacceptable to joke about it especially when the person you're using it as a comparison with (presumably like Mendy) doesn't find it racist or offensive? Why should you cede any ground to me, just because I find it offensive?

Enough people find it racist in Portugal and Spain for their to be a section in their wikipedia about it being controversial, but I agree that this is the key cultural issue that's caused this to blow up. Pep & Bernardo see it like comparing someone to a milky bar kid because they see it in adverts and on supermarket shelves. To the rest of the world though, it's pretty racist to name a brand of chocolate peanuts "little Congolese people" and give them big red lips and until 10 years ago, tribal dress and spears.

Apologising just shows you can see how some people would find the caricature offensive, even if you didn't make the connection because of your different cultural background.

 

[BringBackSwales]

If you want to see what racism is watch Bernard Manning on youtube that will put into perspective Silvas tweet.

Agreed. A clear example of racist jokes = racism. You can’t make a racist joke and not be racist. Bernard was, Bernardo isn’t