Better Call Saul

Agree with all of that. The show is clearly at its best with the cartel, Fring, Mike, Saul and Kim. All the stuff with Chuck, a lot of Jimmy, Mesa Verde etc all went on far too long.

If they’d cut the first 4 seasons into two and left this series as a third series we’d all be saying it’s one of the greatest. Instead it’s not fit to be discussed in the same breath as BB.

I agree, or keeping the 4 seasons but giving us a bit more to hang on to.

I love Gilligan’s work and he does his shows brilliantly, I enjoy that he builds depth to the characters, but I just feel that ‘slipping jimmy’ had more tricks up his sleeve, more sleezy schemes etc, a bit more depth to that fat bloke - can’t think of his name off the top of my head.

The pace of it now, is spot on but my god I was bored getting there. Flitted in and out of the show for ages.
 
Agree with all of that. The show is clearly at its best with the cartel, Fring, Mike, Saul and Kim. All the stuff with Chuck, a lot of Jimmy, Mesa Verde etc all went on far too long.

If they’d cut the first 4 seasons into two and left this series as a third series we’d all be saying it’s one of the greatest. Instead it’s not fit to be discussed in the same breath as BB.

lets be honest, its played out the same way as it did with BB.

That started off slow.
 
I agree, or keeping the 4 seasons but giving us a bit more to hang on to.

I love Gilligan’s work and he does his shows brilliantly, I enjoy that he builds depth to the characters, but I just feel that ‘slipping jimmy’ had more tricks up his sleeve, more sleezy schemes etc, a bit more depth to that fat bloke - can’t think of his name off the top of my head.

The pace of it now, is spot on but my god I was bored getting there. Flitted in and out of the show for ages.

I loved the whole lawyer aspect and him trying to get one over his brother.
 
Always said the best episodes of breaking bad were the slow ones where not a lot happens but you can sense the tension and something round the corner - better call Saul has more of these episodes and it’s why I prefer it.
 
I hear you but I kindof disagree. The stuff with Jimmy and Sandpiper Crossing for example is not only amusing (imo), it helps paint the picture of how Jimmy was never going to fit into normal corporate lawyer life. His relationship with his brother is also key to this. I've thoroughly enjoyed every single episode tbh. Although on reflection I still think BB is the best TV drama series I have ever seen.

The sandpiper stuff was brilliant. But it was so long ago now which proves my point - he should have became Saul a lot earlier. For it to be at the end of season 5 before he gets real dirty with the cartel is mad. To put it in comparison Breaking Bad was finishing now and will go down widely regarded as the greatest show ever made. In five years time what will you remember from the first 5 series of BCS?

The show is made on 1- the acting and 2- the cinematography. It could literally have zero plot but it would still be regarded as a high quality show because of the way it’s done. As it is the plot is a bit meh, unfortunately.

That said this series has been much better and the last episode was excellent. It’s very well set up for a good ending to this series and the whole show if series 6 is it’s last.
 
The sandpiper stuff was brilliant. But it was so long ago now which proves my point - he should have became Saul a lot earlier. For it to be at the end of season 5 before he gets real dirty with the cartel is mad. To put it in comparison Breaking Bad was finishing now and will go down widely regarded as the greatest show ever made. In five years time what will you remember from the first 5 series of BCS?

The show is made on 1- the acting and 2- the cinematography. It could literally have zero plot but it would still be regarded as a high quality show because of the way it’s done. As it is the plot is a bit meh, unfortunately.

That said this series has been much better and the last episode was excellent. It’s very well set up for a good ending to this series and the whole show if series 6 is it’s last.

I am not going to disagree with the above, but I would add the following: Sure the cinematography and acting are fantastic, but for me arguably the most important is the characters. The characters themselves are deeply interesting. It is this which draws me in. Having watched every episode over the years, I feel like I know these people!
 
I am not going to disagree with the above, but I would add the following: Sure the cinematography and acting are fantastic, but for me arguably the most important is the characters. The characters themselves are deeply interesting. It is this which draws me in. Having watched every episode over the years, I feel like I know these people!
That would be no different if it was condensed or moved quicker.

I honestly think if i’d just watched series 1 and then moved on to series 5 I would be able to guess most stuff that had happened and would be able to pick it up and still enjoy it and know what’s happening.
 
That would be no different if it was condensed or moved quicker.

I honestly think if i’d just watched series 1 and then moved on to series 5 I would be able to guess most stuff that had happened and would be able to pick it up and still enjoy it and know what’s happening.
I made my comments as an "and", not as in "I disagree" ;-)
 

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