dadnlad
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i knew a 20 mph welshman would be along soon enough
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Big yellow speed cameras
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Alan Harper's Tash
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The lack of hard shoulder is their biggest issue. Nowhere safe to break down.Generally, yes, although you do get speed increases between the gantries. Ultimately, they'll go to average speed cameras, they just weren't available for changing speed limits previously.
Statistically, they're also safer than normal motorways (and definitely than high speed A roads) but they appear to be the engineering equivalent of us and FFP as far as the media are concerned...
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It’s true though, isn’t it? Even the people that loathe speed cameras slow down to avoid getting fined and points.i knew a 20 mph welshman would be along soon enough
bluesince76
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You should see the stats on the number of people killed and seriously injured on the hard shoulder.The lack of hard shoulder is their biggest issue. Nowhere safe to break down.
There's only one point I ever want anyone to take from a discussion on smart motorways - the hard shoulder is not a safe place. Don't stop on it unless you have to and, if you do, get out of the car and stand behind the barrier to the rear of your own vehicle.
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Oh, for sure, but it’s safer than stopping in the near side lane.You should see the stats on the number of people killed and seriously injured on the hard shoulder.
There's only one point I ever want anyone to take from a discussion on smart motorways - the hard shoulder is not a safe place. Don't stop on it unless you have to and, if you do, get out of the car and stand behind the barrier to the rear of your own vehicle.
Surely a hard shoulder is better than 4 active lanes called "smart"You should see the stats on the number of people killed and seriously injured on the hard shoulder.
There's only one point I ever want anyone to take from a discussion on smart motorways - the hard shoulder is not a safe place. Don't stop on it unless you have to and, if you do, get out of the car and stand behind the barrier to the rear of your own vehicle.
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A hard shoulder was generally regarded as a safe haven (rag managers exepted obviously)
Now, your at the mercy of the smart operators, and it's fucking scary.
I ride my bikes in Wales all the time, I have no problem with complying to the 20 limit.i knew a 20 mph welshman would be along soon enough
Gives me more time to select my chosen sheep for later ;-)
Said like a true merc owner ;-)The lack of hard shoulder is their biggest issue. Nowhere safe to break down.
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I know that I’m going to pay for this, but I’ve never had a breakdown anywhere as of yet.Said like a true merc owner ;-)
Just off to buy breakdown cover.
It's a lovely motor mate, just teasing cos I know u have a sohI know that I’m going to pay for this, but I’ve never had a breakdown anywhere as of yet.
Just off to buy breakdown cover.