Blaming the players

Bluemoon115 said:
Elano - Brazil international - He PERFORMS when he plays for Brazil, Jog on Blumer!
Robinho (according to some) - one of the best players in the world - Hardly seen people blame him, correct.
Richards - the youngest ever defender to play for England and, until this season, recognised by all as probably the best defender of his age in Europe. - No, overhyped as one of the best, believes his own hype.
Dunne - Captain of the Republic of Ireland and a top Premier League defender for the past 5 season. - Mike Sumerbee was one of the best players in the league, doesn't mean he still is, On the downward curve and needs replacing "Sorry Monster" sad but true.
SWP - brilliant winger whose productivity has decreased over the past few weeks. - Again, who has blamed him? No Qualms about commitment & integrity
Joe Hart - Easily the best young keeper in the country, possibly Europe. - YOUNG keeper being key, needs to learn from an experienced one.

^^This^^
 
biffa said:
Bluemoon115 said:
Elano - Brazil international - He PERFORMS when he plays for Brazil.
Robinho (according to some) - one of the best players in the world - Hardly seen people blame him
Richards - the youngest ever defender to play for England and, until this season, recognised by all as probably the best defender of his age in Europe. - No, overhyped as one of the best.
Dunne - Captain of the Republic of Ireland and a top Premier League defender for the past 5 season. - Mike Sumerbee was one of the best players in the league, doesn't mean he still is.
SWP - brilliant winger whose productivity has decreased over the past few weeks. - Again, who has blamed him?
Joe Hart - Easily the best young keeper in the country, possibly Europe. - YOUNG keeper being key, needs to learn from an experienced one.
oh dear

oh dear what?

I don't really like Hughes, but what I saw today had very little to do with him. These guys that wear the City shirt have been slacking. They pick their heads up for the top teams and play attractive football lose or win, then just roll out against the lesser teams whilst still picking up their fat wage.

I'm sorry but a bunch of those guys wouldn't get work the next day in some places. They seriously and I mean seriously need to stand up and be counted or stop picking up their pay slip and do something else in life.....Lazy Bastids!!
 
I really cant believe that this team could have peformed any worse under any other manager, regardless of whether they were inherited or bought by the manager.

So in that case...what has Hughes bought to the table? What improvement have we seen? What is his redeeming grace?

F All, F All and F All.

Taxi for Hughes!
 
robbie not falling out with you mate, but I dont expect overnight sucess and im prepared to give him a minimum of a full season to prove himself. Remember the outrage at sven gettin the push after a full season ! dont you think MH deserves the same ?
 
Challenger1978 said:
JohnMaddocksAxe i agree with you mate and i'd like to add something on to that. Does anyone remember how good the players actually were when Alan Ball was manager and got us relegated . As that used to be one of the things that got to me the most back in the day when we first got relegated from the premiership.

Those players that left city a load of them ended up as captains of teams in the premiership, i can't remember the names at the moment but one was captain of west ham another was captain i think of Blackburn and others went on to do really well as well. Basically we had a bloody good bunch of players and because of piss poor management we ended up getting relegated.

And you know what its fucking killing me at the moment because i'm seeing the exact same fucking thing happen again before my eyes. The fans are divided and at each others throats, good players are under performing, the manager is showing a lack of leadership. And anything that can go against us is going against us, i really really do fear that the club is about to implode again. And like Alan Ball who did it to us last time, Lesie Mark Hughes is doing as fucking good job at destroying us.

Ball was shite but imo the problem went further.We suffered from exactly the same thing playing wise as now. Shite defenders giving away goals from nothing, a team relying on a star player who rarely performs away from home to win the games for them & players more concerned about what was happening behind the scenes. When Ball had gone what happened? We got worse & worse & worse until everyone finally realised players like Kit Symons were wankers.

Turning point was Andy Morrison. We need a PL defender to do the same job & also be a leader on the pitch.

I equate this season more with the one where Joe Royle sorted it out. I recon Hughes will turn this around if allowed to.
 
Richards - the youngest ever defender to play for England and, until this season, recognised by all as probably the best defender of his age in Europe.
Dunne - Captain of the Republic of Ireland and a top Premier League defender for the past 5 season.

Joe Hart - Easily the best young keeper in the country, possibly Europe.

areu on acid?? god help us and england if these facts are true.
which there not!!
 
rastus said:
leewill31 said:
yay, a haven for the hughes haters!
Is he blameless? do you not question him?
Dont hate hughes but why do you believe in him so much, just out of intrest.

what i hate most is this bullshit about being in the hughes in hughes out camp,i will tell you how i see it and it is imho,

i have said before i will give hughes till the end of the season to see how and what he wants to do with this team,to see what players he brings in this window(by the way wayne bridge is a very good start)allso to see what players go out as well,the team atm is very unbalanced in all postions if not unbalanced then back up players are not good enough no matter how much you like or hate hughes it is ther for all to see,i am a patient man and will wait and see if we progress with hughes players and his ideas.
 
Challenger1978 said:
bluefandk said:
Well on february the second the Hughes in brigade will no longer be able to blame the players I wonder what their excuse will be then the weather?

The excuse will be its difficult to buy players in the January transfer window, and I'd literally put £17,000 in cash on the Hughes in crowd using that excuse.
Oh fuck you might be right, and i just saw an interview with Hughes saying he needs at least 2 years!!!!FFS!!!!!
 
Major Premise: all these players are good.
Minor Premise: (but) they are playing badly under Mark Hughes.
Conclusion (proposition): Mark Hughes is a bad manager.

Is that about it?
 

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