Bobby ain't happy! (The Mail.....)

[Mancio]

Gradual improvement and defending the Premiership title will do for me.

i understand it will do for you. the problem is IF it will do for manager and players . without offence , their expectations are a lot more important than yours.

I would think the players would be elated at winning the Premiership again

if you could take a poll about what they prefer to win between PL or CL to players like yaya , silva , kun etc , 'd be very surprised

 

[moomba]

We should allow Mancini to take care of the team & cross the FFP bridge when we come to it.

So we should start worrying about FFP when we fail it, and get punished for failing it. Sounds a good idea.

FWIW I don't think FFP is the only reason we are being more prudent, I think the owner sensibly wants the club to be run on sounder financial footing.

 

[Rammy Blue]

We should allow Mancini to take care of the team & cross the FFP bridge when we come to it.

So we should start worrying about FFP when we fail it, and get punished for failing it. Sounds a good idea.

FWIW I don't think FFP is the only reason we are being more prudent, I think the owner sensibly wants the club to be run on sounder financial footing.

In addition to that I certainly think the owner and chairman are sick of paying wages to players who aren't contributing in the slightest.

Because of the squad rules I think we are making sure we keep a check on who's out before we worry about who's coming in.

This is why I think we may well see a frantic final few days of this window - if we'd already made signings it would mean people like Dzeko, Kolo and Nige would have to leave either on shitty fees or even worse out on loans.

It's very much a case of "one out, one in" at the moment so if we get the right offers this week, for example 20mil+ for Dzeko, then we'll make a move on a striker etc.

 

[Anonymous]

We should allow Mancini to take care of the team & cross the FFP bridge when we come to it.

So we should start worrying about FFP when we fail it, and get punished for failing it. Sounds a good idea.

FWIW I don't think FFP is the only reason we are being more prudent, I think the owner sensibly wants the club to be run on sounder financial footing.

In addition to that I certainly think the owner and chairman are sick of paying wages to players who aren't contributing in the slightest.

Because of the squad rules I think we are making sure we keep a check on who's out before we worry about who's coming in.

This is why I think we may well see a frantic final few days of this window - if we'd already made signings it would mean people like Dzeko, Kolo and Nige would have to leave either on shitty fees or even worse out on loans.

It's very much a case of "one out, one in" at the moment so if we get the right offers this week, for example 20mil+ for Dzeko, then we'll make a move on a striker etc.

And that's exactly how a football club should be run.

I also think it's amazing how people have danced around the issue of our owners this summer by blaming Marwood for a lack of transfer activity. Lets have it right, Sheikh Mansour and Khaldoon ultimately decide how the club is run. So if we're not spending, it's their fault. People should criticise them, or just shut up. It's tiresome listening to the same broken records about how terrible Marwood is and how he's ruining our summer transfer activity when any halfwit can see we're simply trying to avoid the Adebayor/RSC type situation where we're stuck with players who nobody wants to pay for because we've made it clear we don't want them anymore and we've already replaced them.

 

[bluefandk]

I think that the owner feels that we have to send out strong signals that we no langer will be a cash cow for players, agents and clubs, long term that is a vital strategy otherwise we will always be seen as mugs in the market.

There clearly is a conflict between a longterm strategy of changing our image in the footballing world of being willing to just throw money at any transfer and a shortterm strategy of wanting to compete in all competitions.

Every top team in the prem that we will be competing with have improved their squads and added worldclass players, we are the only ones who havent.

If Kompany and Yaya gets injured we wont win the prem and will once again struggle in the Champions league, it has been evident for some time that we needed two worldclass additions to our squad a cb and a defensive midfielder, if we dont get these additions it will be a problem.

I understand Mancinis frustration, but longterm it will benefit us to be more prudent in the market, the problems in our squad can hopefully be adressed either in the next six days or in january.

(Anybody who thinks Mancini will walk is an idiot.)

 

[Rammy Blue]

So we should start worrying about FFP when we fail it, and get punished for failing it. Sounds a good idea.

FWIW I don't think FFP is the only reason we are being more prudent, I think the owner sensibly wants the club to be run on sounder financial footing.

In addition to that I certainly think the owner and chairman are sick of paying wages to players who aren't contributing in the slightest.

Because of the squad rules I think we are making sure we keep a check on who's out before we worry about who's coming in.

This is why I think we may well see a frantic final few days of this window - if we'd already made signings it would mean people like Dzeko, Kolo and Nige would have to leave either on shitty fees or even worse out on loans.

It's very much a case of "one out, one in" at the moment so if we get the right offers this week, for example 20mil+ for Dzeko, then we'll make a move on a striker etc.

And that's exactly how a football club should be run.

I also think it's amazing how people have danced around the issue of our owners this summer by blaming Marwood for a lack of transfer activity. Lets have it right, Sheikh Mansour and Khaldoon ultimately decide how the club is run. So if we're not spending, it's their fault. People should criticise them, or just shut up. It's tiresome listening to the same broken records about how terrible Marwood is and how he's ruining our summer transfer activity when any halfwit can see we're simply trying to avoid the Adebayor/RSC type situation where we're stuck with players who nobody wants to pay for because we've made it clear we don't want them anymore and we've already replaced them.

And that goes full circle back to my post on the previous page about how "damaging" it has been not having a CEO in place. Marwood is an easy target, even more so after Bob slated him, however that will change once Soriano is in place as if he doesn't think he's up to the job then he will be out on his ear.

 

[Anonymous]

Like i said on here last month , i really don't see how Mancini couldn't see this coming ..... because most others could.

These rules of Platinis are specifically designed to primarily curtail Citys spending , make no mistake we are his MAIN target ...... and the club certainly have one eye on them .

We were never gonna spend big without first getting the deadwood out , and that's proved difficult to do ....... £5 million for a player of Adebayors quality is absolutely ridiculous , but the clubs hands are tied , and they have merely tried to make the best of a bad situation ......... RSC is still here , nobody wants him ... and Adam Johnson's only just departed.

The club are now extremely wary of offering long contracts that pay big money ....

It' clear that City are extremely cautious about spending money now , and Marwood has got absolutely no intention of giving Mancini a free hand over incoming players .... despite the list of targets that Mancini supposedly gives Abu Dhabi pre-season.

It's all about getting money INTO the club now , not letting money LEAVE it .... and unfotuntately that's the way it is , that's the way Platini intends it to be !

And unfortunately , for a club who hope to win the Champions League , the likes of Rodwell and Sinclair are unlikely to prove to be what we need ...

My biggest gripe is Platinis supposed intention of creating a 'level playing field' ...... something that only appears to have arisen since City started spending big money .... and if that's his GENUINE PRIMARY CONCERN then maybe he should stop ALL clubs spending big , whether they have a greater annual turnover or not !

 

[1972Bramhall_Blue]

What does this story boil down to? Ultimately that the manager is frustrated by the lack of signing this summer,. I’m sure he is, as we are, and human nature being what it is it seems quite plausible to guess that this has led to friction between Bobby and Marwood especially given Bobby’s prickly personality! But to go from there to threats to quit seems, to me at least to be press sensationalism. It has been a frustrating summer but the emergence of PSG combined with Chelseas need to rebuild has meant we have had far more competition for transfer targets than at any time since the takeover, add to that the clubs determination to put a stop to selling clubs taking the piss just because we’re City and loaded and with FFP just round the corner and it’s been a much more difficult and frustrating window than we hoped and expected in May. The club were in for Hazard but Chelsea offered him bigger wages and more regular football – fair enough, they probably need him more than we do, we wanted RVP but perfectly reasonably were not prepared to pay more than £15m for an injury prone 29 year old especially when it became clear none of our strikers are leaving, we’d have liked Thiago Silva but again PSG need him more and there’s no point getting into a bidding war with them for a player we don’t desperately need, Di Rossi – Roma born and bred and Martinez has an absurdly high buyout clause. As I say it’s been a frustrating window for all of us and especially the manager but this story seems to take that kernel of truth and blow it out of all proportion.

 

[Mancio]

So we should start worrying about FFP when we fail it, and get punished for failing it. Sounds a good idea.

FWIW I don't think FFP is the only reason we are being more prudent, I think the owner sensibly wants the club to be run on sounder financial footing.

In addition to that I certainly think the owner and chairman are sick of paying wages to players who aren't contributing in the slightest.

Because of the squad rules I think we are making sure we keep a check on who's out before we worry about who's coming in.

This is why I think we may well see a frantic final few days of this window - if we'd already made signings it would mean people like Dzeko, Kolo and Nige would have to leave either on shitty fees or even worse out on loans.

It's very much a case of "one out, one in" at the moment so if we get the right offers this week, for example 20mil+ for Dzeko, then we'll make a move on a striker etc.

And that's exactly how a football club should be run.

I also think it's amazing how people have danced around the issue of our owners this summer by blaming Marwood for a lack of transfer activity. Lets have it right, Sheikh Mansour and Khaldoon ultimately decide how the club is run. So if we're not spending, it's their fault. People should criticise them, or just shut up. It's tiresome listening to the same broken records about how terrible Marwood is and how he's ruining our summer transfer activity when any halfwit can see we're simply trying to avoid the Adebayor/RSC type situation where we're stuck with players who nobody wants to pay for because we've made it clear we don't want them anymore and we've already replaced them.

criticize marwood means criticize the owner. now you say.

but when you were criticizing Mancini did not mean to criticize the owner?

 

[cleavers]

i also believe you are seroiously underrating the rags , and the helps they get from media and referees during a whole season.

Mancio "the media" have never helped a team win a trophy, never. Players win trophies, and our squad is still better than theirs, and by the end of this window could be considerably better.

I think we failed to progress in last years CL because didn't have enough experience as a club in europe, we were ultimately well beaten in Munich, but we actually played them off the picth for 30 minutes and should have been front by then. At home against Napoli we simply weren't ready. We were in a group far harder than any other too, and we only failed on GD in the end. Given that its unlikely we'll get a group as hard again, we should progress, plus the squad will have been together for 12 months longer, something a lot of people overlook as important, and they've won the PL together, making them much more of a unit. We'll also have Tevez hopefully for the full campaign rather than 1/3 of it, giving us more (and a different type of) threat going forward.

I think our chances of competing in both competitions are far better this time round.