Bobby ain't happy! (The Mail.....)

Re: Bobby aint happy! (The Mail.....)

Damocles said:
That "right scouting" which Khaldoon says it's an area that Marwood has accomplished lots in, left then slagged off Marwood. Marwood has already overseen the Academy for three years. Do you think it's working?

The right scouting is what we have in place now if I read correctly. Don't think that includes ex-employees. And I do think three years is way too soon to be judging the success (or otherwise) of an academy setup. I'll wait and see how the likes of Rekik, Suarez, Pozo etc go when their out of their teens before I write them off as the product of a failed system.

It's also a public interview for PR purposes with the official website of the club and the official interviewer. Do you need me to show you his comments about Hughes?

Why would he feel the need to promote the achievements of a backroom man? Who apart from us and maybe Mancini needs to be convinced that Marwood has the backing of the men in charge of the club?
 
Re: Bobby aint happy! (The Mail.....)

BillyShears said:
Damocles said:
Because he hasn't done anything bad enough to be sacked that can't be explained away?

Sorry I just don't agree with you. Maybe the people you speak to at City should talk to the powers that be if they think Marwood's doing such a bad job because clearly the owners and Khaldoun think very differently.

This is another one of those times where I'll say I told you so in a few months.

Marwood will be either off or reassigned and someone like Txiki Begiristain will come in to join Soriano.

moomba said:
Why would he feel the need to promote the achievements of a backroom man?

I don't know. Perhaps with the hundreds of stories around that time that stated that Marwood was looking at the chop, he decided for a vote of confidence? Perhaps he was bored and was looking for something to say? Perhaps he believes that Marwood is the best thing since sliced bread?

How could I possibly know that?
 
Re: Bobby aint happy! (The Mail.....)

Damocles said:
cleavers said:
If Marwood is so bad at his job, why do Khaldoon, the board, and the owner not just sack him right away ? There is only one answer, they don't because they think he's doing a good job. If they are so badly wrong then maybe its Kahldoon, the board, and the owner that need to go.

What an interesting way to change the argument. It's also bullshit, but interesting that you've decided to spin it this way. Let's use the exact same logic in a different circumstance. If you make a bad run of moderating decisions, should be throw Ric out?
I wasn't changing the subject at all. They don't sack him because they believe he's doing the job well, its pretty well as simple as that. If and when he isn't doing what he's tasked with, he'll get the push. My further comment was purely sarcasm, as well you know.

I just get fed up with reading in nearly every thread that we'll not win this and that because of Marwood, that we haven't signed our targets because of Marwood.

It obviously doesn't matter what we think of Marwood on here, and Mancini can complain about Marwood all he wants too, if Khaldoon and the board and owner think Marwood is doing a good job then Mancini will just need to get on with his job with what he's given, which in my opinion is more than enough already.
 
Re: Bobby aint happy! (The Mail.....)

Damocles said:
This is another one of those times where I'll say I told you so in a few months.

Marwood will be either off or reassigned and someone like Txiki Begiristain will come in to join Soriano.

No matter which way you spin this, either he's as bad as you say he is, in which case it's shocking that he's still in a job, or he isn't that bad.

I'm curious, do you believe the reason we haven't signed players this summer is because of him?
 
Re: Bobby aint happy! (The Mail.....)

cleavers said:
Damocles said:
cleavers said:
If Marwood is so bad at his job, why do Khaldoon, the board, and the owner not just sack him right away ? There is only one answer, they don't because they think he's doing a good job. If they are so badly wrong then maybe its Kahldoon, the board, and the owner that need to go.

What an interesting way to change the argument. It's also bullshit, but interesting that you've decided to spin it this way. Let's use the exact same logic in a different circumstance. If you make a bad run of moderating decisions, should be throw Ric out?
I wasn't changing the subject at all. They don't sack him because they believe he's doing the job well, its pretty well as simple as that. If and when he isn't doing what he's tasked with, he'll get the push. My further comment was purely sarcasm, as well you know.

I just get fed up with reading in nearly every thread that we'll not win this and that because of Marwood, that we haven't signed our targets because of Marwood.

It obviously doesn't matter what we think of Marwood on here, and Mancini can complain about Marwood all he wants too, if Khaldoon and the board and owner think Marwood is doing a good job then Mancini will just need to get on with his job with what he's given, which in my opinion is more than enough already.

you may well be right , and marwood maybe like the sunlight for the owner eyes. in wich case there could be some truth in what that shit journal write , and this may be mancini's last year at city.
 
Re: Bobby aint happy! (The Mail.....)

Damocles said:
hgblue said:
Damocles said:
The idea that Mancini would walk is ludicrous

If he feels he isn't being given the tools to do the job it's not that far fetched that he's not happy, though I agree it's unlikely that he'd walk.

Mancini will never, ever walk. He'd lose MILLIONS in severance bonuses for resigning. He's not an idiot.

cleavers said:
If Marwood is so bad at his job, why do Khaldoon, the board, and the owner not just sack him right away ? There is only one answer, they don't because they think he's doing a good job. If they are so badly wrong then maybe its Kahldoon, the board, and the owner that need to go.

What an interesting way to change the argument. It's also bullshit, but interesting that you've decided to spin it this way. Let's use the exact same logic in a different circumstance. If you make a bad run of moderating decisions, should be throw Ric out?

I'd just like to point out the bullshit that this simple argument about the competence of Marwood has degenerated into:

1. If Khaldoon hasn't sacked him, either Khaldoon thinks he's doing a good job or has bad judgement.

2. Criticising Marwood is analogous to criticising the ownership.

3. Nobody knows what Marwood's job is, so he cannot be judged.

4. This storm around him is due to him being a scapegoat from Mancini.

5. People who think Marwood is not doing a good job are whinging about lack of spending.

All of the above is complete nonsense.

For the record, I'm sure some might remember that I've been screaming for Marwood to be sacked for three years, since he tried to politik to get Hughes out of the door and lure Wenger here whilst Hughes was still in charge.

Every single person I have spoken to at City on the football side thinks Marwood is incompetent. The Academy's progress under his vision since he joined has been non-existent. Every staff member who has left has either publicly or privately criticised Marwood as a politician who doesn't know what he's doing. Now even the manager has criticised Marwood. He joined because he was pals with Cook at Nike, where he worked in marketing department as an account manager. He has stayed because nobody has come up with a good reason to sack him yet.

His job as Director of Football (and Football Administrator is just a nice title for this) is to help negotiate player contracts, help close transfer dealings, and oversee the entire football operation on the executive level. Under his tenure, the Academy has stopped producing players that we can sell on or put into the squad. They appointed a mate of his as the head of the Academy whose experience was that he used to run an IT department. We are currently the highest wage bill in the country, cannot shift players and have wasted probably a hundred million pound in transfers. He has fallen out with several agents over agent fees. He has no influence at UEFA or the ECA where guys like Platini, Beckenbauer and Dehaene have ran us down publicly. He is not an operator on the same level of these people. He has consistently tried to purchase young English players and we subsequently overpaid for many of them or they were of little use. AJ was known to be a Marwood signing, he was also a big proponent on Milner. Whether this has continued into Sinclair and Rodwell, I don't know, but post-Community Shield, Mancini looked like he barely had any idea what he was going to do with him. Our scouting department left en-masse and we seem to have a rudderless ship on this front. We still have no vision or philosophy of football purveying the club, our first team and youth teams play entirely different brands of football. We still have guys like Jim Cassell who are exceptionally well regarded talents in football doing absolutely nothing whilst Attilio Lombardo runs our Academy teams.

And again, the biggest warning sign about him is that every single person in football at City seems to be saying that he's incompetent and have been for years.

I don't see absolutely anything exceptional that he has brought to the table. He seems to be brought here because he was Cook's mate and been kept around because he's doing alright or his projects take a while to come to fruition. I think in a couple of years time, there will be no disagreements on the job that he did as the Academy continues to falter and we continue to throw money away. Maybe he knows where the bodies are buried, who knows?

There's a case that he's done a poor job. There's a case that he's done a mostly alright job. There's absolutely nothing to support the idea that he has done a top quality job. Every single part of City is striving to be the best. The best manager, the best players, the best Academy, the best CEO, the best Chairman, the best stadium. Brian Marwood doesn't seem to fit this ethos and has been shown to be incompetent on numerous occassions.
Not his biggest fan then...
 
Re: Bobby aint happy! (The Mail.....)

Mancio said:
you may well be right , and marwood maybe like the sunlight for the owner eyes. in wich case there could be some truth in what that shit journal write , and this may be mancini's last year at city.
I highly doubt it, unless it (Mancini disliking Marwood to that degree) suddenly happened this summer, otherwise why would he have signed a long term deal only a few months ago ?
 
Re: Bobby aint happy! (The Mail.....)

cleavers said:
Mancio said:
you may well be right , and marwood maybe like the sunlight for the owner eyes. in wich case there could be some truth in what that shit journal write , and this may be mancini's last year at city.
I highly doubt it, unless it (Mancini disliking Marwood to that degree) suddenly happened this summer, otherwise why would he have signed a long term deal only a few months ago ?

false promises?
 
Re: Bobby aint happy! (The Mail.....)

hbruz80 said:
Not his biggest fan then...

Was hoping we may get a few more words than this, been a while since your last post.

;-)
 
Re: Bobby aint happy! (The Mail.....)

mancitygaz said:
Right,

1, Bob has just signed a 5 year contract.

2, We only need cover for Centre Half.

3, A week left still,

4, If we didn't make a single signing from now till deadline day we still have the best squad

and 5, Stop reading utter wank

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