Born Winner

[zeven]

Some very good points raised, Im gutted as this was our best chance of a trophy especially when you look at the sides still in the cup.

What gets me is the constant 'injuries' excuses, Mancini has a rigorous two training sessions a day im lead to believe n the amount of uneccesary injuries picked up are down to him anyway in alot o cases.

9 first team players out, we dont even have four first team backs. the selection yesterday is all down to this.

 

[Stillsy]

mancini will deliver now lets get behind him

 

[GStar]

Born winners win... not send out teams that are clearly going to fail.

I just feel really let down after last night...

Have you done your U-turn based on last night? If so do you not think thats a little short sighted?

What happens if we go on to get a result against Chelsea, and from there get top 4 and CL football? With a bit of luck we also get a run in the FA cup and who knows... Will everyone still be making such fuckwittery then?

 

[Deleted member 14625]

To be fair if you had not gone to the game I am sure you wouldn't feel quite so bad about it all.

I feel for the many blues who made the trip however imo the Carling Cup is the lowest of interest to me hence me not making the trip down.

Top 4 is the holy grail without a shadow of doubt and to be in 3 cup competitions would just be too much when taking into account the injury list at the moment.

Something had to give and I am pretty confident there won't be too many people in the heirarchy at City shedding tears about last night's exit.

To finish fourth in any sport or business or any type of competition in the world, you are a failure. Finishing third is failing. Finishing second, whilst being respectible, is a failure.

Finishing fourth, whether it gets you Champions (ha, fucking Champions, it should be called the "UEFA Mostly Made Up Of No-marks League"! Most of the Champions League group teams have been complete failures in the Europa League over the last few years! How is that the highest level of competition? There are much better teams in the Europa League than half of the Champions League!) League or not, and being happy with it is a sad state of affairs.

Fuck the Champions League! I'd rather WIN the Europa League for now!

Finishing 5th last season made no difference to the players we signed, if we'd'v won the league we couldn't have signed better players. And fourth, fifth, whatever, it isn't first!

Fuck fourth! I want to WIN a trophy!

While the media want to portray fourth as an achievement and brainwash everyone into thinking that's true; it isn't!

 

[Bill]

If the rags, Arsenal and Chelsea had been relegated or had points deducted then even a no-hoper like Benitez would have won the Premiership.

The point made is that to become Inter manager he first had to prove he was a good manager and did. He was a success at Fiorentina and Lazio, then at Inter.

been shit here though, as i said earlier the jury is out.

 

[GStar]

To finish fourth in any sport or business or any type of competition in the world, you are a failure. Finishing third is failing. Finishing second, whilst being respectible, is a failure.

Finishing fourth, whether it gets you Champions (ha, fucking Champions, it should be called the "UEFA Mostly Made Up Of No-marks League"! Most of the Champions League group teams have been complete failures in the Europa League over the last few years! How is that the highest level of competition? There are much better teams in the Europa League than half of the Champions League!) League or not, and being happy with it is a sad state of affairs.

Fuck the Champions League! I'd rather WIN the Europa League for now!

Finishing 5th last season made no difference to the players we signed, if we'd'v won the league we couldn't have signed better players. And fourth, fifth, whatever, it isn't first!

Fuck fourth! I want to WIN a trophy!

While the media want to portray fourth as an achievement and brainwash everyone into thinking that's true; it isn't!

You contradicted yourself there; personally i'd much rather watch us compete against the CL teams than win the Europa League; trophies are nice, but i'd rather us compete at the top than win at the bottom.

4th is an achievement; we're rewarded with better competition, better players, better recignition.

Just because they don't give you a nice shiny bit of metal, doesn't mean its worth less.

 

[Soulboy]

Born winners win... not send out teams that are clearly going to fail.

I just feel really let down after last night...

Have you done your U-turn based on last night? If so do you not think thats a little short sighted?

What happens if we go on to get a result against Chelsea, and from there get top 4 and CL football? With a bit of luck we also get a run in the FA cup and who knows... Will everyone still be making such fuckwittery then?

I think you may have misread my utterings.. I have not had a "u-turn", I still support the retention of the manager, I still expect him to bring success... I was just letting a fair amount of steam off as I was hugely pissed off last night with the manager's decsisions regarding the game.

Am I not allowed to voice my anger and concerns? Should I stick to the company line that we all "get behind the manager"?

This forum would be mighty dull if we all did that, now wouldn't it?

And as for how we will all see things differently should we beat Chelsea on Saturday... I won't. I will still be pissed off over last night.

I naively believe that we should have beaten West Brom AND Chelsea... because that's the ambitions I have for City. I expect us to win every game we play in nowadays.

Don't you?

 

[rastus]

The point made is that to become Inter manager he first had to prove he was a good manager and did. He was a success at Fiorentina and Lazio, then at Inter.

been shit here though, as i said earlier the jury is out.

That doesnt sound like a jury, sounds more like youve made your mind up.

 

[GStar]

I think you may have misread my utterings.. I have not had a "u-turn", I still support the retention of the manager, I still expect him to bring success... I was just letting a fair amount of steam off as I was hugely pissed off last night with the manager's decsisions regarding the game.

Am I not allowed to voice my anger and concerns? Should I stick to the company line that we all "get behind the manager"?

This forum would be mighty dull if we all did that, now wouldn't it?

And as for how we will all see things differently should we beat Chelsea on Saturday... I won't. I will still be pissed off over last night.

I naively believe that we should have beaten West Brom AND Chelsea... because that's the ambitions I have for City. I expect us to win every game we play in nowadays.

Don't you?

You've jumped to a hell of a lot of conclusions, picking questions i've no idea why as i never touched on anything about what you can and cannot write or how this forum should operate.

Oh and no, i don't expect anything in football, imo that absolutely ludicrous. But i think thats how our fans are going, it explains a lot around the complete over reaction last night and the lack of atmosphere untilwe're 2-0 up; home or away.

 

[m27]

To finish fourth in any sport or business or any type of competition in the world, you are a failure. Finishing third is failing. Finishing second, whilst being respectible, is a failure.

Finishing fourth, whether it gets you Champions (ha, fucking Champions, it should be called the "UEFA Mostly Made Up Of No-marks League"! Most of the Champions League group teams have been complete failures in the Europa League over the last few years! How is that the highest level of competition? There are much better teams in the Europa League than half of the Champions League!) League or not, and being happy with it is a sad state of affairs.

Fuck the Champions League! I'd rather WIN the Europa League for now!

Finishing 5th last season made no difference to the players we signed, if we'd'v won the league we couldn't have signed better players. And fourth, fifth, whatever, it isn't first!

Fuck fourth! I want to WIN a trophy!

While the media want to portray fourth as an achievement and brainwash everyone into thinking that's true; it isn't!

You contradicted yourself there; personally i'd much rather watch us compete against the CL teams than win the Europa League; trophies are nice, but i'd rather us compete at the top than win at the bottom.

4th is an achievement; we're rewarded with better competition, better players, better recignition.

Just because they don't give you a nice shiny bit of metal, doesn't mean its worth less.

You missed the most crucial bit out...better financial reward.

Not very romantic to talk about money over trophies but that's the reality of the situation.