Brahim Diaz - 2017/18 Performances

[Neville Kneville]

He's not going to get that chance next season so that's not going to happen imo

Then it's our fault if we lose a potential windfall or a top player in tbe future.

If Zinchenko hadn't been pressed into playing fullback, he'd now be leaving for fuck all.

Because he played, he has much more value both as a squad player & a potential sale.

If we don't at least make an effort to get a City player out of Diaz then our system is a fucking joke imo. Far too many excuses.

 

[domalino]

So moving forward there will be stars coming in but not at the rate of the recent past - this will give youngsters a big chance so the ball is in their courts. If they are good enough they will be brought into the team.

Brahim plays across the front 3.

We've currently got..Sané 22, Jesus 21, Sterling 23, Bernardo 23, Aguero 30 and Riyad Mahrez 27 competing for game time.

There aren't going to be any opportunities for Brahim any time soon, and everyone knows it. We as fans all know it, Brahim knows it, the club know it.

He is right to seek a move away, obviously I'd hope it's a loan, but a permanent deal makes more sense for him because it's not like he's going to come back in 12 months and there will be an opening.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Brahim plays across the front 3.

We've currently got..Sané 22, Jesus 21, Sterling 23, Bernardo 23, Aguero 30 and Riyad Mahrez 27 competing for game time.

There aren't going to be any opportunities for Brahim any time soon, and everyone knows it. We as fans all know it, Brahim knows it, the club know it.

He is right to seek a move away, obviously I'd hope it's a loan, but a permanent deal makes more sense for him because it's not like he's going to come back in 12 months and there will be an opening.

What should happen is that he should get a shot at it. If we do that & he is nowhere near it, he can try elsewhere. If he's good, play him more often.

If that means a senior player ends up leaving then fine. We have a replacement.

Both he & Foden might quickly go up a level with more game time. If we can't find them any, we have too many senior players.

 

[domalino]

What should happen is that he should get a shot at it. If we do that & he is nowhere near it, he can try elsewhere. If he's good, play him more often.

If that means a senior player ends up leaving then fine. We have a replacement.

Both he & Foden might quickly go up a level with more game time. If we can't find them any, we have too many senior players.

Which senior player gets benched for Brahim? And I'm not just talking about 1 league cup game or the FA Cup 3rd round, but 20 times next season, who's going to drop Sané and Mahrez for him?

No 18 year old is as good as a 60m former POTY signing, that's part of the problem, we've created an environment where just to get a chance, young players are expected to deliver at a level no young players in the world can play at.

If he leaves then he can develop and if we're lucky we can buy him back without being completely gouged or him going to a rival instead.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Which senior player gets benched for Brahim?

Which player gets sold for him? No 18 year old is as good as a 60m former POTY signing, that's part of the problem, we've created an environment where just to get a chance, young players are expected to deliver at a level no young players in the world can play at.

if he plays well for example & is getting better & for example Bernardo Silva is a bit better than him, & sees his arse, you sell the 'better' older player & trust the kid to replace him.

If the kid is playing well then it's no problem if the senior player ends up leaving & if he isn't it's no problem as you just move him out of the squad & play the senior player.

It's a no lose situation which over time, City have turned into a no win one.

These things don't have to happen over night you get at least a year to decide. It's easy.

 

[waspish]

People need to calm down a bit - Last summer we had no choice but to recruit heavily due to the age and lack of desire in the first team squad, at the same time it was just too early for Brahim and Foden to be thrown into a newly constructed Pep side. Interesting that this off season we have so far bought just one player in, there maybe one perhaps two tops coming in and that will be that. Consider the season we've just had after the change of personnel - would anyone who is a fan not wish for a season like last year. It had to happen. So moving forward there will be stars coming in but not at the rate of the recent past - this will give youngsters a big chance so the ball is in their courts. If they are good enough they will be brought into the team.

I find it kind of ironic that those complaining that we don't use our academy well are the same that fret when we don't make a ruck of big signings! The club has set it's stall out and it is no good just buying players for the sake of it. Utd have done this for three or four years now and look at their recent progress. Brahim and Phil Foden have the opportunity to take this chance and if they feel it is better to move on so be it - In my humble opinion it would be madness to move now without really considering the bigger picture. We are not privy to the day to day training conversations but we have to trust Pep to continue building us into an unstoppable force. One, which utilises it's academy. Just have a little more patience.

Good post.

 

[pudge]

By the time Xavi was Brahim's age he was in the middle of a season in which he'd play 26 games for Barcelona, most of which were starts. By the beginning of the next season he was promoted by Van Gaal to replace injured Guardiola as Barcelona's main central midfielder and play 38 games.

Your comparison isn't just a ridiculous one, it's wrong.

Perhaps, a week away from his 19th birthday, Brahim looks around the changing room and sees

Raheem Sterling - was already in Liverpool's team and was about to be central to their 13/14 title challenge.

Leroy Sané - Already a full german international and starter for Schalke by 19 and being chased by multiple big clubs around Europe.

Jesus - Brazil's number 9 at 19. Just about to win Olympic gold and sign for City.

Or perhaps most tellingly...Bernardo Silva, who forced a move away from Benfica at 19 because he wasn't getting chances, and hasn't looked back since.

And the best manager of the past decade doesn't deem him ready nor at those players level.

Telling.

Just because someone hits the same age as an Mbappe or Jesus or Sterling etc doesn't mean they should just be given x amount of starts. 18 years and 7 months was when Xavi, one of if not the best midfielders the game has ever seen, got his debut. So by perspective, even the most talented have to wait.

You're good enough, you're old enough. Pep obviously feels, at this point, he's not good enough.

It's no different to people saying that we dodged a bullet with Jorginho and Sanchez with their attitudes and lack of commitment to our club. Yet those same people will say "fair play" to Diaz. Those personalities are one and the same.

 

[domalino]

And the best manager of the past decade doesn't deem him ready nor at those players level.

Telling.

Not really. In 2013 Mourinho was the most successful manager of the last decade and he fucked of KDB for Oscar.

Being a great manager doesn't mean being a great user of youth players and it's now been 9 years since a Guardiola brought a youth player through into one of his teams. The longer it goes on the more it looks like the ones he was forced into using at Barca B are the only ones who will ever be good enough.

I'm as big a pep fanboy as there is, but that doesn't mean I think hes infallible or wouldn't prefer to take the easier route of spending tens of millions for a developed player than developing one.

A little over a year ago we were told by the chairman that the big 3 were the ones who were different. Brahim, Foden and Sancho were the kids we'd been waiting for and they would break through.

13 months later it looks possoble the only one still at the club is the one bound here by being from Stockport and growing up a city fan.

All you really need to look at to see why Brahim might leave is the reaction to Sanchonij the Bundesliga. Dortmund seem convinced hes going to get them Dembele money and they've hit the absolute jackpot.

 

[doobyedoobye]

Then it's our fault if we lose a potential windfall or a top player in tbe future.

If Zinchenko hadn't been pressed into playing fullback, he'd now be leaving for fuck all.

Because he played, he has much more value both as a squad player & a potential sale.

If we don't at least make an effort to get a City player out of Diaz then our system is a fucking joke imo. Far too many excuses.

He only played because of injuries and I can only assume City managers feel under so much pressure for results week in week out that they aren't prepared to gamble on youngster unless the situation is dire.

 

[CityStu]

Brahim may not even be demanding immediate first team games. No doubt he looks at the standard of the players he's competing with, maybe realises his physical stature isn't quite there, and thinks he'll bide his time until he's ready. After all, plenty of youngsters have burst onto the scene as teenagers only to burn out by 30.

However, and it's a big however, if he's going to sign a new contract, it's going to be for at least 3 years. With him about to turn 19, that contract would take him until he's about to turn 22, by which time he'd understandably want to be involved in first team football.

So he looks to youth players that have signed contracts at City in their late teenage years taking them into their early twenties. He sees Barker, Roberts, Denayer, Adarabioyo, Garcia, et al and he sees a host of players that have never got anything beyond scraps of time at City, who have been sent on endless loans for no reward.

Why would he want to endure that instead of moving permanently, now, to a decent club that's going to invest in him, give him time, and make him a better player?