Brentford (H) | Post-Match Thread

kanovic said:
I haven’t read one comment where people are saying arsenal are not a good side.. actually people are saying they have ever chance to win it. The only thing I ever say is people saying that they don’t have depth which is true.. show me proof where someone said arsenal are good and that person was accused of not being a city fan?
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I got massive abuse last week for it, people calling me miserable, putting me on block for it, every week it's Arsenal won't last, squad to thin, we will win the league by 10 points blah blah blah blah, people just can't tale the fact a team is better than us this season
 
ancoats said:
Funny that the Mid-season report will say JOB DONE

Premier League
still very much in our own hands

champions league
Job done and won the group

league cup
beat Chelsea and still in the next round vs liverpool at home
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Fair point mate.

The club/players have probably taken the approach of “be in a decent position at the break and we’ll sort it after the WC”.

But the underlying fact is we are not performing as well as we should be and it feels pretty frustrating.
 
fancy having to go to the world cup on the back of that performance. The players won't care but us fans will have to wait a long time before that shit show is put to bed.
 
dickie davies said:
The play was stopped for seven and a half minutes for Laporte's injury, so with all the time wasting and subs the ref added two and a half minutes
When they scored the second, it was almost two minutes before play started again and he allowed 57 seconds
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They had more chances to score in the 10 minutes than us. In hindsight, we shouldn't have taken off a defender for an attacker, and be happy with a point.
 
Brewster's millions said:
There’s a lack of pace and physicality throughout the squad and when we’re not on it - as we clearly weren’t today - then we pay for it.

We keep conceding the same type of goal because we haven’t got enough legs in the side. Everyone knows how vulnerable we are to the counter attack but nothing has been done about it during Guardiola’s whole time at City, so you can only conclude that they aren’t planning to buy a different type of player - more physical but perhaps less technical - who could help us defend better.

The squad is very thin this season and players like Gundogan look to have been played far too often, even allowing for the injury situation. The lack of subs today just makes the whole experience much more frustrating. Surely Grealish would have been a better bet in the last half hour than Gundogan or even De Bruyne given how poorly they were playing?

Not sure any of this will change while Guardiola is the manager, so we should expect more of these performances even if we still keep winning trophies.
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I agree whole heartedly...the pace of the game is soo different to when pep started with us let alone Barca..we will lose a few more like this...spurs for eg when Son is back...we have a system that can stifle teams IF we keep the ball. When we keep losing it like today we don't wear out their legs chasing the game. I think the WC could be a bridge too far for many of our squad as well...KDB is getting ready to be rinsed..only advan grealish might get some game time..
Don't see where the confidence comes from re coasting the league. Clearly we wont..i said b4 season 83 point league winners this year ..for someone. It could be us..or quite easily not us.
 
tony adcock said:
Better team won today
They wanted it more and created the clearer chances.

No intensity from the off

Ederson our best player tells me all I need to know about the team performance
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Agreed but I think Laporte was our best player today.

It was like only Laporte, Bernardo, Foden and Ederson came to play.

Everyone else had a shit game, including Haaland and KDB and Gundo and Cancelo and Rodri and Stones.
 
SidJames said:
If Grealish had scored a hat-Trick mid week, Guaranteed Pep wouldn't have started him today.

Heaven forbid we get some consistency.

I used to wonder why Pep always Subbed Aguero when he was on a Hat-trick.

I wish he would stop fucking about with the defense, and putting Square Pegs in round Holes just to prove the point he can.Starting to do my Head in watching players playing in the wrong positions just to prove some sort of genius..
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Agree with all that but when you settle down a bit and think what Pep and our team has won you got to say he right in everything he does 99.5% of the time
 
Not much else to add. We always looked second best and vulnerable. Very annoyed that we didn't just shut up shop and take the point. But we got away with one last weekend, two in a two would have been too lucky.

Too many players protecting themselves for the world cup. I'm sick of that floated ball into no one and nothing. I'm sick of no overlaps on the wings. Ref got the piss taken out of him.

We have a few players who, when they have a bad game, have a very, very bad game. The worrying thing, though, was I was looking at the bench and couldn't see a player who could come on and change things.

We've been off the pace since United. Good news is we can get much, much better and we are still there or thereabouts, but Pep has a lot to think about.
 
Fair play to Brentford they had a plan and executed it perfectly. As for us we kind of played right into their hands - too slow in possession and leaving the final pass to players either not in form or those who tend to be a bit wasteful.

I really thought given the amount of 50/50 challenges happening in and around their box it would have been perfect to bring Jack on - he gets fouled more than any and we missed him today, without him there was a lack of space to work in and every time we got it to John and Cancelo it was so slow they were set up to defend easy balls into the box. Gundo had possibly his worst game for us and look laboured, maybe his final WC on his mind...I cant ever recall him missing so badly with the four chances he had.

I would also have preferred Ruben instead of Akanji today mainly for leadership - we all have to admit we were very poor defensively - not really a unit all game and this was exposed by pace. Ruben seems to have the sort of character that rises to the challenge of playing against an in form striker - Tony had our centre backs in a spin all match.

After the break Pep must stick to a regular back four as the constant changes to give all game time is not ideal.

Anyway let Arsenal, like Liverpool before them, think it's theirs - I still believe we will get 4 points in the two games which will probably decide the title.
 
To properly review that performance properly you have to factor in fatigue which has been massive the past month with the fixture pile up. Our performances have indicated that. We're tired, and that's before the World Cup starts has been obvious for a month now. At some point Pep has to make use of the 5 subs rule.

Brentford had a plan today, and executed it perfectly. We played into their hands by only using one substitute over basically 100 minutes but they warranted their win. Hats off to them.

But after 60 minutes you could see Kev and Gundo were shattered and had nothing left. Bernardo as well. On the bench there were tactical moves to make by bringing Grealish and Gomez on to create width and get service to Erling but Pep didn't make it for whatever reason. I don't understand it and don't want to take away from Brentford who deserved their win.

But second half of the season post WC Pep has to utilise the squad properly. This is a season like no other and there's no point having a deep squad if we only use 11 plus 1 or 2 garbage time substitutes.
 
balotelli's back pocket said:
All on Pep. That was a disaster from start to finish. Yes, the players were poor (especially Kev and Gundo), but he had options on the bench and decided not to use them. What an insult to Jack and Riyad after their performances in midweek.

We were dead on our feet and you could tell the goal was coming. Akanji is nowhere near Dias - purple patch over. We really missed Ake and Kyle.

5 points is recoverable, but we have to be so much better after the World Cup.
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We might get lucky with Arsenal tonight but I think we’ll do very well to beat them this season given some of the decisions Guardiola is making.

Everyone could see that Rodri and Gundogan were knackered and needed a rest given how they played against Chelsea. Starting both was a gamble, but leaving both of them on for the full game and not even putting Grealish on the pitch was a terrible, absolutely shocking decision.
 
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