Brentford (H) | Post-Match Thread

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

Cancelo needs a good kick up the arse for sure. I am somewhat worried about the rest of the season we appear to be a bit disjointed. The gap to the gunners does not concern me but we have room for improvement. It will be a frustrating six weeks methinks.

He is so annoying. What the hell was that dive! Pathetic

 

[Norbert D]

Two footed lunge.

 

[argyle]

Shit game, felt like half the team had an eye on the World Cup.

Pisses me off that.

We missed players who gave a shit today.

They cared only about their place in the world cup and not about the club that pays their wages nor the fans who paid a lot to be there.

 

[Eccles Blue]

Has anyone heard how Laporte is? That was a loooong stoppage and then him up and channelling his inner Zaba! :-)

He didn’t seem to be only thinking of his World Cup appearance. :-)

 

[ysmsa]

My pre match attempt at a joke backfired (they always do) as I spotted Toney and the referee pushing wheel barrows full of cash to their vehicles after the match!
Toney arranged / predicted a 1 - 2 with NO penalty to City, they cleaned up!

WTF was that today.

Laporte and Akanji, never again as a centre back partnership please.

Laporte only started to play well when he had the bandage on.

Gundogan, terrible game should've been crooked for JG

Foden, tried but wrong decisions all the time. The first one where Haaland gambled and launched himself! Just play it in Phil and let Erling decide how he finishes it!

Cancelo wtf, cost us the game. Couldn't be arsed tackling then gives away a needless foul in our half which is what they wanted, ball into the box and 0 - 1, he was fucking terrible!

Bernardo, wasted until moved inside but too late.

Alzarez, absolutely shit the bed with that chance! Broke his run far too early to shape up to pass instead of being direct, Haaland would've buried that opportunity.

Very disappointed with the game management, no attempt to change a fucking shit performance.
Wasn't only the Players who had knocked off early for the WC, looks like Pep was serving Club shop Klopps touchline ban today!

A cracking day ruined by a fucking shit match!

The officials though were fucking unbelievably bad. 10 minutes added, 10 minutes played despite half of that time being taken up with bullshit.

 

[remember arthur mann]

hard to know why we were shit - Pep picked just about his first choice 11 except walker.

I think you'll be seeing a lot less of Walker.

 

[HarrytheBlue]

Nope. Just that any claims we’ve gone backwards can’t be reasonably made at this point in a season. We’d be making that claim every single year otherwise since we start below our best and finish so strong most of the time.

Now, you might not have noticed but we’re also playing a condensed season. Most of the top sides in Europe aren’t at their best. We’ve played 6 CL games already in a time we’d usually only have played 4. Liverpool, Real, Barca, Bayern, Juve, as well as others far below their best. Arsenal as it happens don’t have that on their schedule and can afford to change most of their team in the Europa.

When you add that in to missing key defenders, evolving how we play etc, I’d say it was incredible unfair to state we’ve gone backwards at this stage, and also that history probably shows it’ll be proven incorrect as well.

Correct. Too many headless chicken fans (if they are fans) supporting our club. Our players are brilliant, but they're also human. Shit happens. Every top side has these days.

 

[M Gaudino]

My pre match attempt at a joke backfired (they always do) as I spotted Toney and the referee pushing wheel barrows full of cash to their vehicles after the match!
Toney arranged / predicted a 1 - 2 with NO penalty to City, they cleaned up!

WTF was that today.

Laporte and Akanji, never again as a centre back partnership please.

Laporte only started to play well when he had the bandage on.

Gundogan, terrible game should've been crooked for JG

Foden, tried but wrong decisions all the time. The first one where Haaland gambled and launched himself! Just play it in Phil and let Erling decide how he finishes it!

Cancelo wtf, cost us the game. Couldn't be arsed tackling then gives away a needless foul in our half which is what they wanted, ball into the box and 0 - 1, he was fucking terrible!

Bernardo, wasted until moved inside but too late.

Alzarez, absolutely shit the bed with that chance! Broke his run far too early to shape up to pass instead of being direct, Haaland would've buried that opportunity.

Very disappointed with the game management, no attempt to change a fucking shit performance.
Wasn't only the Players who had knocked off early for the WC, looks like Pep was serving Club shop Klopps touchline ban today!

A cracking day ruined by a fucking shit match!

The officials though were fucking unbelievably bad. 10 minutes added, 10 minutes played despite half of that time being taken up with bullshit.

just wanted to respond to the point about time added on; the ball being out of play/goalie taking a long time to take a kick/throw ins taking time does not add on time. only injuries, goals and subs. there is a directive for ‘time wasting’ to be taken into account but it basically isn't for general slowness at restarting play or how many fouls there are - these elements are viewed as part of the game

 

[City Raider]

A lot of understandable negativity but if nothing else this team has proved when we really need to win we do (CL aside). Today we didn’t against a team fighting for every point. I think it’s as simple as that.

 

[geek24601]

We have gone backwards, so far, this season. Haaland has won us more points than our performances deserved. Big improvement required after WC and please dear god, Txiki sign an actual LB.

 

[Theblueguy]

My pre match attempt at a joke backfired (they always do) as I spotted Toney and the referee pushing wheel barrows full of cash to their vehicles after the match!
Toney arranged / predicted a 1 - 2 with NO penalty to City, they cleaned up!

WTF was that today.

Laporte and Akanji, never again as a centre back partnership please.

Laporte only started to play well when he had the bandage on.

Gundogan, terrible game should've been crooked for JG

Foden, tried but wrong decisions all the time. The first one where Haaland gambled and launched himself! Just play it in Phil and let Erling decide how he finishes it!

Cancelo wtf, cost us the game. Couldn't be arsed tackling then gives away a needless foul in our half which is what they wanted, ball into the box and 0 - 1, he was fucking terrible!

Bernardo, wasted until moved inside but too late.

Alzarez, absolutely shit the bed with that chance! Broke his run far too early to shape up to pass instead of being direct, Haaland would've buried that opportunity.

Very disappointed with the game management, no attempt to change a fucking shit performance.
Wasn't only the Players who had knocked off early for the WC, looks like Pep was serving Club shop Klopps touchline ban today!

A cracking day ruined by a fucking shit match!

The officials though were fucking unbelievably bad. 10 minutes added, 10 minutes played despite half of that time being taken up with bullshit.

Ball was in play for just under 6 minutes of the 10. Shocking.

 

[citymad]

We have gone backwards, so far, this season. Haaland has won us more points than our performances deserved. Big improvement required after WC and please dear god, Txiki sign an actual LB.

Thats probably true. It’s hard to day why we haven’t played well consistently. We have incredible players but look disjointed. Doesn’t help playing central defenders in full back positions. We really need a couple of wingers and of course a quality left back. How many years have we been saying that ? Got to be at least 15 years or more which is quite incredible.

 

[Brightwell Bros.]

Looks like we could do with the break, but I really wish we had another game soon. Going to be a long five weeks.

 

[Citizen1961]

We're in un-chartered territory with the insertion of the World Cup bang in the middle of the season. The squad announcements this week and the impending start of the tournament takes focus away. Add to that a Brentford team featuring an overlooked centre forward with a point to prove suggested this match could be a banana skin, and so it proved. Our players lacked intensity, they lost so many headers and second balls and looked lethargic, going through the motions. I'm not sure it will get much better directly after the WC. We don't know what impact it will have on players, there could be injuries. We normally hit good form around Christmas and go on an unbeaten run but with the WC this might not happen until February. It's the same for all teams, but not all teams have realistic ambitions of winning the title, the impact will be disproportionate. The team that wins the league will be the one that handles the disruption the best. This game won't define our season and we are in a good position, probably best to try and enjoy the WC and look forward rather than pick the bones out of todays mess.

 

[phargrave]

Looks like we could do with the break, but I really wish we had another game soon. Going to be a long five weeks.

Irrespective Arsenal will win the league,they seem to show more determination and purpose…given out of form teams (barring Arsenal) we should be pissing the league this year!!!

 

[M Gaudino]

We have gone backwards, so far, this season. Haaland has won us more points than our performances deserved. Big improvement required after WC and please dear god, Txiki sign an actual LB.

the stats are not that encouraging. 32 points from 14 games which using that average gets us to 87 points. enough to win the league but not enough to guarantee it

whats more concerning is who we’ve played - Liverpool we lost, newcastle rescued a draw, postponememts to games against arsenal and tottenham and two games against chelsea to come as well. so really 80-85 points is looking more like our level. if arsenal can just stay competent they should get there quite comfortably

 

[Brightwell Bros.]

Irrespective Arsenal will win the league,they seem to show more determination and purpose…given out of form teams (barring Arsenal) we should be pissing the league this year!!!

You can't be pissing the league if another team has a record of 12W1D1L. Simply doesn't matter if your rival from last year has dropped off if that's how another team is doing.

And I'm not personally ready to throw the towel in just yet.

 

[Tommy_Catons_Perm]

the stats are not that encouraging. 32 points from 14 games which using that average gets us to 87 points. enough to win the league but not enough to guarantee it

whats more concerning is who we’ve played - Liverpool we lost, newcastle rescued a draw, postponememts to games against arsenal and tottenham and two games against chelsea to come as well. so really 80-85 points is looking more like our level. if arsenal can just stay competent they should get there quite comfortably

Chelsea not up to much. The matches v Arsenal will be decisive.

 

[Salford in the City]

I think you could see this result coming after the Fulham game last week.

We've been very slow in the first half of both games, and then after that, just relied on Haaland to get us back on track.

On our day, we can beat anyone in Europe, but for now, we've got to concentrate on beating the likes of today's opponents!

 

[Sulaiman14]

Feels like pep is a bit concerned about losing gundogan and bernado, ie the game time they are getting bernado deservedly ye, in the correct position but gundo not so sure. Phil best 2 games v utd and Sevilla he played on the right can’t remember him there since. All very odd, as is the lack of a proper fullback.

I agree
Pep doesn’t want to bench Gundogan or Bernardo, and that is the start of our biggest problem

Gundogan in the middle doesn’t give us the creativity that we need from our midfielders..
Yes Gundogan is great in bringing the ball forward, but in the last third you need creativity more that anything else
What is even worse is that we lose the pace and the threat that we need from the right winger.. Foden or Alacarez would certainly be more clinical on the right side

I honestly don’t see other major issues