Brianna Ghey murder guilty verdicts

[Blue and true]

Over the years, I wonder how often that has been said

Many times. Though that doesn't change the point I was making.

 

[CarlosTevez'sEnglishTutor]

Bit of a Scouse accent on that girl, is she from Skelmersdale?

 

[Blue and true]

At a cost of £300,000 per year apparently. £6m to potentially rehabilitate someone seems like an extreme waste of money to me.

No criminal sentence is handed down arbitrarily. In the instance of minors, there will always be mitigating circumstances determined by criminal psychologists that will lessen sentences. It's much easier to determine inherent, irredeemable evil in an adult than it is in an adolescent or child. I believe sentences should be much tougher, but many think whole tariffs should be mandatory when in reality a judge is hamstrung by the law in cases like this.

These two will be out in twenty years, that's the shit truth, so ask yourself this: would you rather nothing were done to correct them while they are inside. Or, would you rather spend taxes rehabilitating them and thereby greatly diminishing the chance of them striking again when they rejoin society?

 

[asgoodasitgets]

Bit of a Scouse accent on that girl, is she from Skelmersdale?

Does it matter ?

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

No criminal sentence is handed down arbitrarily. In the instance of minors, there will always be mitigating circumstances determined by criminal psychologists that will lessen sentences. It's much easier to determine inherent, irredeemable evil in an adult than it is in an adolescent or child. I believe sentences should be much tougher, but many think whole tariffs should be mandatory when in reality a judge is hamstrung by the law in cases like this.

These two will be out in twenty years, that's the shit truth, so ask yourself this: would you rather nothing were done to correct them while they are inside. Or, would you rather spend taxes rehabilitating them and thereby greatly diminishing the chance of them striking again when they rejoin society?

I’d rather the law was changed.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Just remember quite a few of these "outraged" front pages are anti-trans and are doing this to sell papers with no real feelings. Next week they will be quoting Linehan/Rowling/Liddle and their anti-trans shite. Just don't buy a newspaper folks - of any flavour - they are just rags trying to bend your mind

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[gordondaviesmoustache]

Are people seriously suggesting we execute two sixteen year olds?

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

At a cost of £300,000 per year apparently. £6m to potentially rehabilitate someone seems like an extreme waste of money to me.

That's the cost of a place in a secure children's home/young offenders centre.

They won't be there after they are 21.

And the costs will be a lot less. Much of the costs in secure children's homes are due to staffing. Ratios will be 1:1, 2:1 or even 3:1. That doesn't apply to adult prisons.

 

[Blue and true]

I’d rather the law was changed.

I tend to agree. But that's a whole other thread entirely.

 

[bluethrunthru]

These two will be out in twenty years

No they won't - the tariffs were a minimum the Judge made that very clear and there are requirements attached that must be achieved for them to even appear before a parole board after that time has passed.

I am happy for them to rot in jail - I want every day for the rest of their lives inside have them looking over their shoulder waiting for the attacks which will be inevitable inside. They will have a price and a value as a trophy on their heads and they cannot evade it forever