Bring Back Joe Hart

[domalino]

So we got the polished version?



You really don't like Joe, do you?



But there are some who would make a reasonable stab at making saves and actually pull some of them off.



Qualification: not high risk at two of the best clubs in the world with settled sides.

I'm sorry but there is no world in which Guardiola arrived in a settled side that was one of the best in the world.

They had just finished 3rd and he replaced 5 of the starting 11.

And then they conceded 20% fewer goals Than the season before, so even if you're stupid enough to believe the myth he joined them when they were already brilliant, he still had a massive effect.

 

[sir baconface]

I'm sorry but there is no world in which Guardiola arrived in a settled side that was one of the best in the world.

They had just finished 3rd and he replaced 5 of the starting 11.

And then they conceded 20% fewer goals Than the season before, so even if you're stupid enough to believe the fact he joined them when they were already brilliant, he still had a massive effect.

Save the "stupid" comment. I could equally have called you a blinkered fan-boy but resisted the temptation.

 

[NQCitizen]

Why not? Because it would ignore more variables than you could shake a stick at. It would be as valid as "proving" Hart was the PL's best goalie because he won the most golden gloves.

I appreciate that but it's impossible to get a truly flawless comparison so I'm willing to take a fairly flawed one.

My main contention is just Bravo is doing so much worse than Hart did. In terms of smaller differences well that's harder to tell as you said.

 

[domalino]

Save the "stupid" comment. I could equally have called you a blinkered fan-boy but resisted the temptation.

So you think he inherited a settled, best in the world team then?

Despite all the evidence to the contrary?

 

[sir baconface]

I appreciate that but it's impossible to get a truly flawless comparison so I'm willing to take a fairly flawed one.

My main contention is just Bravo is doing so much worse than Hart did. In terms of smaller differences well that's harder to tell as you said.

No worries. I agree with that.

 

[sir baconface]

So you think he inherited a settled, best in the world team then?

Despite all the evidence to the contrary?

Was that an apology?

 

[domalino]

Was that an apology?

No, because if you do believe that then you are an idiot, and you believe something completely made up and I'm certainly not apologising.

 

[sir baconface]

No, because if you do believe that then you are an idiot, and you believe something completely made up and I'm certainly not apologising.

On yer bike then, pal.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

You really don't like Joe, do you?

Just being factually accurate. The last time we won something, he wasn't in nets. But when we play the same team a few days later, he is in nets and lets in the softest of goals imaginable.

 

[Blue Pete]

Think of it as people did before he played in a City shirt - there is no keeper in the world better suited to playing the way we want to in the world. Neuer is more rounded, but it's irrelevant anyway because he's not for sale.

- Bravo was experienced, played this way from the time he was a child.

- He was Barcelona's first choice keeper where he kept 43 clean sheets in 75 games.

- He was MOTM in the copa america final, and his record with Chile is incredible, his saves and quality goalkeeping being one of the main reasons they won 2 Copa America's.

- He is one of the 5 goalkeepers nominated for World team of the year.

- He was recommended by people Pep knew at Barca and he had worked with our goalkeeping coach before.




Whether Bravo "comes good" or not, we will never sign a goalkeeper who ticks all of the boxes prior to signing like he did. He was a renowned shot-stopper and ball playing goalkeeper and he was the perfect singing to be our 'keeper.

So if you're of the opinion that Bravo isn't good enough, make no mistake, this could happen to any goalkeeper we ever sign, because he was good enough in August. Has been for years.

I don't really disagree with you, but from what you've seen in a blue (green yellow etc) shirt he hasn't performed well for us. Granted he's been let down by a poor defence and I hope he does come good.
My primary point was that Joe Hart isn't the answer, maybe it will be Bravo (I need convincing) maybe not, but we need a footballing keeper which Hart will never be. Let's not forget we went first for his Barca team mate and picked up Bravo instead.

Any signing is a risk I just feel that this one, so far hasn't worked

 

[i kne albert davy]

Just being factually accurate. The last time we won something, he wasn't in nets. But when we play the same team a few days later, he is in nets and lets in the softest of goals imaginable.

Just watched a re run forwards were gash should have scored 4 instead of missing chances. as for the defence how exposed was Hart left no wonder he didn't make an attempt so definitely not the keepers fault.

 

[blueinmadrid]

Bravo isn't good enough for any team in the Premier League, let alone City. Burnley and Sunderland have got a better no. 1 than we have at the moment. Whether Joe Hart is the solution or not however is a moot point as Pep obviously doesn't fancy him so it's not going to happen - but he's miles better than Claudio.

 

[ono]

Whatever you think of Bravo, pretending that was better than Bravo is just silly. It was as bad as any Bravo has conceded.

No it wasn't. He spread himself. Bravo does the exact opposite.

 

[bluemonkey71]

I like to think bravo is a stop gap for either Geronimo or someone else next season

 

[ono]

Unless Joey will agree to pass short he will not be back at the club.

To be fair, I wouldn't pass short to any of our back 4 if they were under any modicum of pressure.

 

[ono]

I like to think bravo is a stop gap for either Geronimo or someone else next season

He's just a gap.

 

[i kne albert davy]

I like to think bravo is a stop gap for either Geronimo or someone else next season

Think he's a stop gap for anybody else.

 

[Indaparkside]

I like to think bravo is a stop gap for either Geronimo or someone else next season

Sitting bull

 

[Motty25]

Will never happen but would quite like the idea of having both Hart and Bravo next season...serious competition could bring the best out of them both.

 

[Delphacito]

Bravo is gashly out of form right now. But saying Joe was a better shot stopper than Bravo is just following a false narrative.

Stats from the last 2.5 seasons.

Source & Article : https://seekingobjectivity.wordpress.com/2016/12/13/joe-hart-vs-claudio-bravo-shot-stopping/

On their average days, Bravo is a better shot stopper than Hart. The problem is he's way out of form right now.

Not good enough for Burnley and Sunderland? LOL ffs. Barcelona would have him back in a heartbeat if they had a choice.