Bring Back Joe Hart

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At the end of the day - we can't forget that initially we wanted ter Stegen.
However we couldn't get him, and Pep was so obesessed about buying a goalie who 'can' pass, we ended up buying Barcelona's 2nd choice keeper who's 33. Not their fist choice who is 24.

Bad move from Pep and co considering we had one of the best shot stoppers in the world, and whilst he did have his flaws, we bought a keeper who will cost us more points per season than Joey, all for the sake of a few passes here and there, which isn't even working yet. Our goal kicks prove that.

We should have gone for ter Stegen, and if we couldn't get him, kept Joey and Pep could have improved him.

Claudio Bravo and ter Stegen arrived in the same transfer window in 2014.

In the two years they were together, Bravo played 75 games - 2x as many games as ter Stegen.

Bravo almost kept more clean sheets than ter Stegen played games.

There is no universe where he was Barcelona's second choice keeper. If people are going to discuss the signing of Bravo at least try and keep it factual.
 
I've always maintained that goalkeeper is the least important position and that if those in front perform well you could have anyone in net.

Bravo is single-handedly changing that view. He's fucking shit. Hart is vastly superior in almost every respect and though Pep would not admit it he's dropped a massive bollock.

Nothing personal but every part of that post is completely wrong in every possible way.
 
Well no Hart isn't vastly superior in every respect. His distribution is much worse, he is very suspect on crosses, he's weak on his left hand side and his judgement is poor. One-on-one he's good but that's really about all.

It's a wonder we won anything with him if he's so rubbish.
 
To be fair though he wasn't even our first choice was he?

I don't think they cared which. They saw Barca had two goalkeepers who wanted to play all the time, we put pressure on both and forced Barcelona into a position where they had to choose for the better goalkeeper today (Bravo) or their long term prospect (ter Stegen). Either was good for us.

In hindsight it's incredibly fortunate we got Bravo because ter Stegen is more error prone and lacks the experience that Bravo does. He'd also have had a £65m price tag on his head and I can only assume everything bad with Bravo would have been amplified with the kid in goal instead.
 
I don't think they cared which. They saw Barca had two goalkeepers who wanted to play all the time, we put pressure on both and forced Barcelona into a position where they had to choose for the better goalkeeper today (Bravo) or their long term prospect (ter Stegen). Either was good for us.

In hindsight it's incredibly fortunate we got Bravo because ter Stegen is more error prone and lacks the experience that Bravo does. He'd also have had a £65m price tag on his head and I can only assume everything bad with Bravo would have been amplified with the kid in goal instead.

Not seen enough of him to be honest. Just Hope Bravo pulls his finger out and starts saving some shots.
 
Not seen enough of him to be honest. Just Hope Bravo pulls his finger out and starts saving some shots.

ter Stegen is to Bravo what Stones is to Pique/Bonucci/good Ball Playing defender.

He's brilliant, and erratic. He takes more risks and gets more rewards, he's the unpolished version. He would have been a massive project and with the rest of the team in flux the way it is, I think we'd have been worse off.
 
Claudio Bravo and ter Stegen arrived in the same transfer window in 2014.

In the two years they were together, Bravo played 75 games - 2x as many games as ter Stegen.

Bravo almost kept more clean sheets than ter Stegen played games.

There is no universe where he was Barcelona's second choice keeper. If people are going to discuss the signing of Bravo at least try and keep it factual.

Why on earth would Barcelona let us sign their first choice keeper for £17 million, and not their 2nd choice for £40+ million?

Bravo was their first choice keeper, but it was clear that was about to change hence why they let us sign him. So at the time of signing Bravo was their second choice...
 
Why on earth would Barcelona let us sign their first choice keeper for £17 million, and not their 2nd choice for £40+ million?

Bravo was their first choice keeper, but it was clear that was about to change hence why they let us sign him. So at the time of signing Bravo was their second choice...

We forced the change. They would have kept Bravo as first choice for at least another year if they could have, but in the end settled for the guy who could stay there another 10 years instead of the 33 year old.

By going from Bravo to ter Stegen they got worse, and that's translated very visibly in the number of goals they've conceded.
 
Why on earth would Barcelona let us sign their first choice keeper for £17 million, and not their 2nd choice for £40+ million?

Bravo was their first choice keeper, but it was clear that was about to change hence why they let us sign him. So at the time of signing Bravo was their second choice...

Do you really need to ask that question? They'd get maybe 3-4 years max out of one and potentially 15 years out of the other, no brainer.

Why was it clear? If we made no move for either we don't know who Enrique would've selected as first choice.
 
which makes me think it was Pep making a statement of power rather than a judgment of ability.
Not for me sorry. Joe was a great shot stopper but had a lot of weaknesses too, probably more than Pep would have been comfortable with. I don't buy into the suggestion he was got rid of because Pep may have seen it as a challenge to his authority either.
 
Holding what? The brush for the sweeper keeper?

At this moment in time I don't care which keeper we have, even bring back Joe Corrigan, but I just want a keeper who KEEPS THE BALL OUT OF THE NET!!!!
There isn't a keeper that will keep the ball out of the net , playing behind these defenders. There are 6 players involved in keeping clean sheets Bravo is just one of them.
 
Bravo is better than Hart, their stats up to this season pretty much prove it. You'd think that Hart never got dropped for Pantilimon or Willy reading this. There were massive holes in his game.

Quality player Joe, but i still believe we've upgraded. Bravo came as one of the top keepers in the world, and he will retake that reputation.
 
Hart would certainly have got nearer to all the goals we've shipped than Bravo has that's for sure. Bravo isn't even getting close and the skills wth his feet we were promised haven't materialised. Yet, let's hope.
 
This is fucking pathetic scapegoating of a player who's only partially to blame for a poor two months, and it's pointless comparing him to a player who is gone and isn't even as good as we remember him anyway.
 
Quality player Joe, but i still believe we've upgraded. Bravo came as one of the top keepers in the world, and he will retake that reputation.

Please can you ask the staff what drugs they have you on ?, or admit your on a f*cking wind up because he could not get a game in net for the dog an duck on the displays we have seen.
 
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