Bring the Noise

Short term, it makes us look naff, but long term, the number of school kids attending and singing at City games will prove to be inspired.

The atmosphere was awful last night, but I challenge anyone to improve the noise levels when it’s so obvious that the players have been instructed to avoid any physical contact.

We never got out of first gear, and consequently looked slow and ponderous, against opponents who seemed quite happy to play for a draw once they’d equalized.

Last night, I counted three people on my row whose first language was English, and to be honest, I don’t think we’ll ever get out of this CL Group Stage cycle of non-atmosphere for nondescript opponents. We can’t even blame expensive tickets, because the club have bent over backwards to make the price reasonable.

However, let’s not kid ourselves that City hold a monopoly on tourists. It’s why the Premier League attendances have never been higher.
 
Looking at the remaining teams in 2nd place in the CL group stages, City are almost certain to draw a top European team in the last 16.

Real Madrid.
Atletico Madrid.
Napoli.
Dortmund.
Lyon.
Valencia.(if they beat Chelsea?)

Which means a full house, with many season ticket holders and regular matchday City fans turning up.
 
jrb said:
Looking at the remaining teams in 2nd place in the CL group stages, City are almost certain to draw a top European team in the last 16.

Real Madrid.
Atletico Madrid.
Napoli.
Dortmund.
Lyon.
Valencia.(if they beat Chelsea?)

Which means a full house, with many season ticket holders and regular matchday City fans turning up.
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I am not so sure there's any link between regulars and noise. I think it's more the tension of the occasion. Undoubtedly the home leg of the last 16 game will be a good atmosphere.
 
jrb said:
Interesting comments. Keep them coming.

TBF, I’m not had to put a tin hat on.(yet!)

The general consensus is, there isn’t one. Lot’s of mixed opinions and views, which isn’t a bad thing. If anything, it shows how divided opinions ‘still’ are and probably always ‘will be’ about a megaphone and a drum.(more so)

The megaphone is getting a mixed, but more positive response. The drum a lot less so. Personally I’m not a drum person, but I’m not bothered by it.

1 interesting moment last night.

During the Guardiola chant in the 2nd half, which got going across the South stand, I turned around with the megaphone, facing the fans, and in full view of the fans. Out of Two and a half blocks, roughly about 1250 fans, blocks 114,115 and 116, hazarding a very rough guess, there were a couple of hundred fans singing the Guardiola chant. The remaining fans were either watching the match, or looking at me, but not joining in with the chant.

All 3 blocks had a very, very, mixed group of fans, old, young, Male, Female, Kids, British, Foreign, regulars, tourists, etc. TBH, it’s a mixture of fans and people that won’t create a sustained atmosphere at any match.

On a CL night we have rely on those regular PL City fans who do go to the CL matches to create an atmosphere. Limited in numbers. The CL group stages are always poorly attended by our regular fans. But as the CL progresses and we get further into the knockout stages of the CL, those missing regular fans come back.

From a personal point of view, and after last night, I think the megaphone is worth another try at the the next CL game. It doesn’t have to be by me, but I won’t mind doing it again. But I also think it’s a good idea to give somebody else a go. There are some decent singers in 1894 who can get chants going. (like most people can) But the megaphone needs to be louder to have more of an impact. I think last nights megaphone was between 30watts-50watts? There are 100watt megaphones on the market. See below.

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As for the drum, I can take it or leave it.

1894 will go back to the club. The club will read and look at the feedback on here. We’ll have a discussion. And a decision will be made whether or not to use the megaphone and /or drum again.

Once again, thanks for all the feedback.
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I thought during one of the initial trials ages ago, the club had one with 11 different volume levels, the loudest of which could be heard 2 miles away. Imagine that!
 
Scaring Europe to Death said:
Short term, it makes us look naff, but long term, the number of school kids attending and singing at City games will prove to be inspired.

The atmosphere was awful last night, but I challenge anyone to improve the noise levels when it’s so obvious that the players have been instructed to avoid any physical contact.

We never got out of first gear, and consequently looked slow and ponderous, against opponents who seemed quite happy to play for a draw once they’d equalized.

Last night, I counted three people on my row whose first language was English, and to be honest, I don’t think we’ll ever get out of this CL Group Stage cycle of non-atmosphere for nondescript opponents. We can’t even blame expensive tickets, because the club have bent over backwards to make the price reasonable.

However, let’s not kid ourselves that City hold a monopoly on tourists. It’s why the Premier League attendances have never been higher.
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Who cares what language fans speak. Last night they showed up, the 'regulars' are not so regular. New fans are much more likely to sing than people set in their ways.
 
Marvin said:
I am not so sure there's any link between regulars and noise. I think it's more the tension of the occasion. Undoubtedly the home leg of the last 16 game will be a good atmosphere.
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Blocks 114, 115 and 116 were full of non-regulars last night. Not criticising them. But they won’t know the chants, and they will be less likely to join in with the chants. Depending on the last 16 draw, more regulars will definitely make the effort, which will improve the overall atmosphere. A *better City performance*, and a full away end, will also help.
 
Tim of the Oak said:
I think Gary James posted a few weeks ago that we need to encourage the youngsters, teach them the songs etc and that seems quite a good idea to me.

btw Those Blues who became too cool for the Poznan don’t want us to have a good idea.

Credit to JRB and 1894 for experimenting with the megaphone and drum. I’m in 209 and I could hear the drum but not the megaphone. It’s probably due to the volume and positioning issues that JRB explainer.

A further positive was the large number of fans at the game who aren’t regulars meant we still had plenty of fans in the ground when the ref blew the final whistle.
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Funnily enough @Tim of the Oak I could hear the megaphone (occasionally) but not the drum, in CBL1 125. It was also mentioned to me at half time, someone wondered how it was got into the ground and I explained that it had been approved by the club!

The bold and underlined line................... you should have been where I was, there was a mass exodus at 87 minutes from some of the people spread around the first 5 rows across from me, 7 people from the row I was on and quite a lot from behind me!! At full time before the whistle went it was as if all the lifeboats had been used and the ones left behind were clinging on for grim life!! :-) These were not regulars to the area either, they might have been visitors from other areas who had just relocated for this game. I was amazed because it was still on a bit of a knife edge and the length of added time hadn't been displayed!! Nowt so queer as folk as my old gran used to say!! (I'm actually my old gran nowadays I suppose!!) :-) :-)
 
M18CTID said:
I thought during one of the initial trials ages ago, the club had one with 11 different volume levels, the loudest of which could be heard 2 miles away. Imagine that!
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Come to think of it. Hmmm.

I’m not sure.

Always thought the noise came through the actual megaphone and not any speakers.

Bar me using it, the megaphone is controlled from the control room. Don‘t think the volume can be controlled? Perhaps it can be? We’ll have to speak to the club.

When I tested the megaphone inside the empty stadium in the Summer, it sounded much louder. But it was an empty stadium.
 
Marvin said:
Who cares what language fans speak. Last night they showed up, the 'regulars' are not so regular. New fans are much more likely to sing than people set in their ways.
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I never said that foreigners weren't welcome

I was making the point that if they're tourists/students/newcomers/whatever, then they're not going to be familiar with the traditional songs.
 
On a positive note. To get a crowd of 52,000+ for a dead rubber CL game, against unattractive opposition, with only a couple of hundred away fans, is fantastic. OK, we gave tickets away as well. I appreciate ticket prices were very cheap, and they will go up for the last 16 game, especially if City draw Real Madrid or 1 of the other big clubs.
 
BlueMoonRisin' said:
Agreed PC, smalltime and fuckin' cringe worthy! But you know music after a goal on the horizon mate. I really think they think it would add to our contrived 'matchday experience'. American style razzmatazz bollocks of cheesy music complimented by pom-pom waving cheerleaders after a goal is scored.

I think it coming unfortunately: /
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Just FYI, from all 1894's meetings where the club, they've given us no indication that they're planning to introduce goal music. If they brought it up, we'd be strongly against the idea.

Best thing we can do to prevent goal music is to be noisier without them!
 
Fair play to 1894 group, without them the atmosphere would be flatter than a witches tit.

The way forward I think is to allow roving tickets allocated to a block, not a particular seat as it is now. That way fans who want to sing can bunch up and not feel alienated and embarrassed to start songs going. Would be great when the proposed NS extension happens and the club allow a roving approach. Can't see it happening though.
 
mancityvstoke said:
I'll do the megaphone fingy..............one fuck off ban for me though. kick off with "I've got a dog his name is rover ...............
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This is a song I think we should sing but a cleaner version that won’t make us look like ****s.

Use this as the start like we do “if you’re drunk you will die” for Invisible Man:

“I’ve got a dog it’s name is Rover
Na na na na na
When it shits it shits all over
Na na na na na”

then:
“Shit on the windows
Shit on the door
Shit on the ceiling
Shit in the floor
Shit all over Man United
Na na na na na”

And just repeat that bit of it over and over.
 
jrb said:
On a positive note. To get a crowd of 52,000+ for a dead rubber CL game, against unattractive opposition, with only a couple of hundred away fans, is fantastic. OK, we gave tickets away as well. I appreciate ticket prices were very cheap, and they will go up for the last 16 game, especially if City draw Real Madrid or 1 of the other big clubs.
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It wasn't a dead rubber, both teams needed a result.

Perhaps the atmosphere is sometimes flat because we have been so good over the years and winning games is accepted. No need to jump out of your seat to urge the lads on for many I guess.

Anyway keep up the good work.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
This is a song I think we should sing but a cleaner version that won’t make us look like ****s.

Use this as the start like we do “if you’re drunk you will die” for Invisible Man:

“I’ve got a dog it’s name is Rover
Na na na na na
When it shits it shits all over
Na na na na na”

then:
“Shit on the windows
Shit on the door
Shit on the ceiling
Shit in the floor
Shit all over Man United
Na na na na na”

And just repeat that bit of it over and over.
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Would be nice to have a more PC verse like the one you've mentioned, before we get into the 'I know a hooker who's name is Violet' part of the song.
 
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