What’s the consensus on using a drum and megphone? Came across a video of the Rangers fans using it and it seems to work pretty well. 8:55 in the video shows it can work well.
Crystal Palace and Celtic use them effectively as well.
Why not both? Casuals and Ultras style support.Total fucking cheese on toast. Incessant annoying drum banging, cringeworthy choreographed overhead clapping, monotonous songs with no words...no spontaneity, no humour, too many band geeks not watching the game...
We’ve already got better chants than any set of Ultras. We just need to sing them more and not stoop to the levels of dross in the Ultras scene.
Casuals > Ultras
Total fucking cheese on toast. Incessant annoying drum banging, cringeworthy choreographed overhead clapping, monotonous songs with no words...no spontaneity, no humour, too many band geeks not watching the game...
We’ve already got better chants than any set of Ultras. We just need to sing them more and not stoop to the levels of dross in the Ultras scene.
Casuals > Ultras
Your telling me Europeans would rather have the English matchday dynamic? I’m not buying that at all.Preach, brother. A strong songbook with plenty of oomph pisses all over a drum and all that band shite. Works on the Continent more, but they’d rather have our match day dynamic. Couple of Milan lads we were chatting to in Athens were saying that, the Ultra thing can be a routine as such whereas the more spontaneous English approach is much more effective.
Your telling me Europeans would rather have the English matchday dynamic? I’m not buying that at all.
Cheap tickets on the continent, all the hardcore in one stand, marching in unison before the big games, no tourists filling the stands and sanitising the atmosphere.
I don’t believe that for a second. You’re telling me fans at Rapid Vienna, Frankfurt, Red Star, Napoli - some of the top fans in Europe would prefer an English style atmosphere?
The Casual way is basically dead and has been for a while. I’ve no doubt England once was the envy of fans across Europe with the casual scene but that doesn’t exist anymore.
Your telling me Europeans would rather have the English matchday dynamic? I’m not buying that at all.
Cheap tickets on the continent, all the hardcore in one stand, marching in unison before the big games, no tourists filling the stands and sanitising the atmosphere.
I don’t believe that for a second. You’re telling me fans at Rapid Vienna, Frankfurt, Red Star, Napoli - some of the top fans in Europe would prefer an English style atmosphere?
The Casual way is basically dead and has been for a while. I’ve no doubt England once was the envy of fans across Europe with the casual scene but that doesn’t exist anymore.
There was a German poster on here once (can’t remember which team he supported) who said that a lot of fans in the other stands other than the one that sings in Germany, are utterly sick to death of all those same songs droaning on and on all the time.Your telling me Europeans would rather have the English matchday dynamic? I’m not buying that at all.
Cheap tickets on the continent, all the hardcore in one stand, marching in unison before the big games, no tourists filling the stands and sanitising the atmosphere.
I don’t believe that for a second. You’re telling me fans at Rapid Vienna, Frankfurt, Red Star, Napoli - some of the top fans in Europe would prefer an English style atmosphere?
The Casual way is basically dead and has been for a while. I’ve no doubt England once was the envy of fans across Europe with the casual scene but that doesn’t exist anymore.
Casuals wear casual clothing. I’ve noticed more casuals (certainly in my group of lads) don’t want drums, and we react to the game naturally, we watch the game, and we like our proper songs with words.I’m only repeating what these fellas said to us. Don’t go often enough to foreign grounds to have a more in-depth insight. But I know that every visiting fan I’ve ever spoken to from overseas thinks our place is amazing on Euro nights. That’s not, to be absolutely clear, any sort of our ground is better than yours type of shite, just observations I’ve come across. I’m sure there are the same stories about your place, OT etc.
I’m interested in how you distinguish casual and ultra. The former was obviously borne out of fashion and the like, whereas the latter is more rooted in almost paramilitary essence as I see it. Far less spontaneity and just following a rule book - that’s not for me to be honest. But we already have a fair percentage of it in the game so there’s a happy compromise, I suppose.