Bundesliga review part 2. the new one :)

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moflo said:
Ice hockey and the DEL (Deutsche Eishockey Liga) is for me an example of the negative effect when profit is more important than tradition.
Back in the days I loved ice hockey and watched it regularly on tv or went to the stadium of my club. Then they introduced the DEL with all the silly clubnames, no relegations, licence-system and stuff.

off-topic, but it is the same for me. Watched some Düsseldorf EG matches in my younger days. The atmosphere was outstanding, much better than football at the time. But when they started to turn it into an american league system, i lost interest completely.
 
Unrelated, but that's what I don't like about the American system. One minute your club is in your town, the next minute it's moved all the way across the country; perhaps even thousands of miles. Imagine Bayern being moved to Hamburg? It just wouldn't seem right.

In regards to FC Bayern Basketball, is there many German clubs that have other departments?
 
MCFCHOWELL said:
Unrelated, but that's what I don't like about the American system. One minute your club is in your town, the next minute it's moved all the way across the country; perhaps even thousands of miles. Imagine Bayern being moved to Hamburg? It just wouldn't seem right.
Disgusting that it happened to Wimbledon. I still wanted MK Dons to do well, because they still had the Wimbledon boys for some time, but now I can hate the club and everything it stands for.

I know the Germans love it, but hate the fact that when you go for a winter break in Germany you never have a chance to get down to the football.
 
MCFCHOWELL said:
In regards to FC Bayern Basketball, is there many German clubs that have other departments?

Most of the clubs have other departments. Schalke has a basketball, a handball and a table tennis team. But most of those departments at other clubs are not on that professional level Bayern plays basketball. For what reason ever they are spending their money on that, at most other clubs is quite different, they keep those teams on a low profile to save money.
 
Ruhr said:
MCFCHOWELL said:
In regards to FC Bayern Basketball, is there many German clubs that have other departments?

Most of the clubs have other departments. Schalke has a basketball, a handball and a table tennis team. But most of those departments at other clubs are not on that professional level Bayern plays basketball. For what reason ever they are spending their money on that, at most other clubs is quite different, they keep those teams on a low profile to save money.
I would've thought the same. Basketball isn't that big in Germany? What benefit to Bayern have from investing so much money in it, I presume they play in that European league with the likes of Olympiacos etc.
 
supercrystal7 said:
MCFCHOWELL said:
Unrelated, but that's what I don't like about the American system. One minute your club is in your town, the next minute it's moved all the way across the country; perhaps even thousands of miles. Imagine Bayern being moved to Hamburg? It just wouldn't seem right.
Disgusting that it happened to Wimbledon. I still wanted MK Dons to do well, because they still had the Wimbledon boys for some time, but now I can hate the club and everything it stands for.

I know the Germans love it, but hate the fact that when you go for a winter break in Germany you never have a chance to get down to the football.
It could've been worse if Franchise MK would've actually moved to Dublin! Then we'd probably find ourselves with more Franchises, as with the money that team could've brought in they'd probably have been in the CL. I also remember the "it isn't in the best interests of football to restart Wimbledon" that the FA came out with, leaving it all to the fans.
 
MCFCHOWELL said:
Unrelated, but that's what I don't like about the American system. One minute your club is in your town, the next minute it's moved all the way across the country; perhaps even thousands of miles. Imagine Bayern being moved to Hamburg? It just wouldn't seem right.

In regards to FC Bayern Basketball, is there many German clubs that have other departments?

The HSV is named Hamburg Sports Club - they have a lot of other departments with football only being one of it. Their handball department is big - they won the Handball Champions League last season. TSV 1860 Munich actually means gymnastics and sports club - it is the same there.

Bayern does not have only basketball - they have nine-pin-bowling, table tennis, handball, chess. The basketball club of Bayern has been German champion already in the 50s but was mediocre in the decades afterwards until Bayern started to promote it again some years ago. Why they did it? It was about the same time Hoeneß stopped being manager for Bayern and overtook the presidency what meant that he got rid of that daily stuff and the close connection to the players. Germany had a basketball hype with Nowitzky but there was no good Munich team in it. And clubs like Barcelona and Madrid - benchmark for Hoeneß - have big basketball departments. Actually they asked the members in 2010 if the basketball department should be better promoted and 75% of 23.000 members that answered favoured that. Then they started to invest, got sponsors like Audi etc. to sponsor the basketball team, too - etc. Fans were not the biggest problems - there is a lot football fans that are actually interested in other sports, too and with the name Bayern you can easily get yourself fans (and opponents...)

[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8UiQVY5a6Y[/video]
 
Maldeika said:
The HSV is named Hamburg Sports Club - they have a lot of other departments with football only being one of it. Their handball department is big - they won the Handball Champions League last season.

sorry, but that is fake. It is a club from outside Hamburg, that moved into the city and bought the name rights and the logo from HSV. They had been financed by a sugar daddy for years, not by the football club, who is in financial trouble anyway.
 
supercrystal7 said:
MCFCHOWELL said:
Unrelated, but that's what I don't like about the American system. One minute your club is in your town, the next minute it's moved all the way across the country; perhaps even thousands of miles. Imagine Bayern being moved to Hamburg? It just wouldn't seem right.
Disgusting that it happened to Wimbledon. I still wanted MK Dons to do well, because they still had the Wimbledon boys for some time, but now I can hate the club and everything it stands for.

I know the Germans love it, but hate the fact that when you go for a winter break in Germany you never have a chance to get down to the football.

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Ruhr said:
Maldeika said:
The HSV is named Hamburg Sports Club - they have a lot of other departments with football only being one of it. Their handball department is big - they won the Handball Champions League last season.

sorry, but that is fake. It is a club from outside Hamburg, that moved into the city and bought the name rights and the logo from HSV. They had been financed by a sugar daddy for years, not by the football club, who is in financial trouble anyway.

I did not know - thanks. I followed handball ages ago when Gummersbach and Großwallstadt were big in it but never after. When I was about 10 to 12 I played handball in a club but stopped when I went into a boarding school. In the recent years I just see the "headlines".

I do not mind the winter break. Time to watch other sports - or even the Premier League. Football somehow is an addiction - it is not bad to have a time with a little less of it and doing other things.
 
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