Bundesliga review part 2. the new one :)

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Agree with the vast majority of that, up until the 'need a more creative player' bit. They bought Mkhitaryan in the summer who will go from strength to strength, as he's a fantastic player. They have Sahin back too, and with Gundogan improving all the time, I think they're sorted when it comes to creativity. They will lack a striker once Lewandowski leaves, so I wouldn't be at all surprised if Dzeko made a return to the Bundesliga, as I think him and Lewa are extremely comparable.
 
supercrystal7 said:
I don't understand the Dortmund players and why they have no faith in the club? Dortmund have a chance of establishing themselves as one of the top 5 clubs in the world. They have a recent champions league win, a good youth system, an excellent stadium, a great manager and a fantastic young team. Yet it seems in Germany itself they are not held so highly. Sahin, Kagawa, Goetze and now Lewandowski have/will all left. There are still rumours about Reus and Gundogan. The club are in a very stable position financially and could become a real force, because they are assured champions league football for the next few years, but the players don't seem to believe in the project.

As for Lewandoski, he was incredibly underrated up until the Madrid game where he scored 4 and now is vastly overrated. He is not on the same level as Zlatan. He even is not the level below as say Rooney (as an out and out striker). Would have been far better to sell him for 25 million even to Bayern and bring in Higuain. Lewandoski has been terrible this season and does not look bothered.

Also think Klopp made a mistake not bringing in a more creative player. The loss of Goetze was a big one and teams are going to come and park the bus against them. When this happens they lack the bit of guile to break those teams down. Ozil was the perfect and obvious signing. Aubmeyang looks good and could become the new central striker. Hoffmann looks very talented and will probably replace Kuba. They just need that extra world class player in the middle to really be a match for Bayern, Madrd and Barca. A players of De Bryune's level is not going to cut it they really need someone already world class. If Mata was available he would be the perfect option, even cup tied and in January. Usually it's better to go for the cheaper option, but Dortmund need a big name signing to give their players and their standing a boost.


I also don't understand this Dortmund situation. I dunno which is worse, the Suarez situation or the one with Lewandowski.
 
MillionDollarDream said:
I also don't understand this Dortmund situation. I dunno which is worse, the Suarez situation or the one with Lewandowski.

Lewa is out of contract in summer, Dortmund chose to let that happen instead of cashing in. Suarez is a completely different situation.
 
I am confused why people blame Gotze and Lewandowski for going for the money. Clubs like Chelsea, Man C, and R.Madrid definitely in for them and if all they cared about was the money Bayern wud not be their first destination....
 
No mentioning of the 2nd round in the German Cup?

SV Darmstadt 98 - FC Schalke 04 1:3
VfL Osnabrück - 1.FC Union Berlin 0:1
SC Freiburg - VfB Stuttgart 2:1
FC Bayern München - Hannover 96 4:1
FSV Frankfurt - FC Ingolstadt 04 0:2
Eintracht Frankfurt - VfL Bochum 2:0
1.FC Kaiserslautern - Hertha BSC 3:1
1.FC Saarbrücken - SC Paderborn 07 2:1
TSG 1899 Hoffenheim - FC Energie Cottbus 3:0 past extra-time.
Hamburger SV - SpVgg Greuther Fürth 1:0
1.FSV Mainz 05 - 1.FC Köln 0:1
Arminia Bielefeld - Bayer 04 Leverkusen 0:2
SC Wiedenbrück 2000 - SV Sandhausen 1:3
SC Preußen Münster - FC Augsburg 0:3
VfL Wolfsburg - VfR Aalen 2:0
TSV 1860 München - Borussia Dortmund 0:2 past extra-time

Dortmund needed extra time and a penalty to score against 1860.
 
Bundesliga results on friday and saturday

Eintracht Frankfurt 2-2 Hamburger SV, att. 50,700
1:0 Flum (31.)
1:1 Lasogga (45. + 3.)
2:1 Russ (54.)
2:2 Jansen (86.)
Van Marwijk´s first point with his new club HSV

Borussia Dortmund 5-0 SC Freiburg, att. 80,000
1:0 Reus (35.)
2:0 Reus (45. + 2, pen)
3:0 Lewandowski (58.)
4:0 Lewandowski (70.)
5:0 Blaszczykowski (79.)
red card: Diagne (SC Freiburg)
another very strong performance by BVB and a helpless SC Freiburg

Bayern München 1-0 VfL Wolfsburg att 71,000 (sold out)
1:0 Thomas Müller (63.)

Bayer Leverkusen 2-0 Hannover 96, att. 25,198
1:0 Rolfes (23.)
2:0 Sam (37.)
Sidney Sam´s playing his best season so far

FC Augsburg 2-2 Borussia Mönchengladbach, att 30,352
1:0 Hahn (27.)
1:1 M. Kruse (33.)
1:2 Hrgota (71.)
2:2 Milik (88.)
FCA´s team making the best of its limited talents

Hertha BSC 3-1 Mainz 05, att. 40,969
0:1 Nicolai Müller (8.)
1:1 Allagui (48.)
2:1 Allagui (73.)
3:1 Ben-Hatira (74.)
Mainz 4th defeat in a row

1899 Hoffenheim 3-3 Schalke 04 att. 29,139
0:1 K.-P. Boateng (3.)
0:2 Matip (13.)
1:2 Modeste (16.)
1:3 Höger (40.)
2:3 Roberto Firmino (48., pen)
3:3 Abraham (61.)
ridiculous defending on both sides
 
Werder Bremen - 1. FC Nürnberg 3 - 3
Braunschweig - Vfb Stuttgart 0 - 4

don't know if it's question of quality, but there seem to be more goals in the Bundesliga than in the PL - more entertaining stuff?.

Cup draw 3rd round (to be played dec. 3rd/4th)

Eintracht Frankfurt – SV Sandhausen
Union Berlin – 1. FC Kaiserslautern
FC Schalke 04 – TSG 1899 Hoffenheim
1. FC Saarbrücken – Borussia Dortmund
Hamburger SV – 1. FC Köln
SC Freiburg – Bayer 04 Leverkusen
FC Augsburg – FC Bayern München

VfL Wolfsburg – FC Ingolstadt 04
all other matches might sell out, wonder how many will turn up to watch this match
 
BayernMan said:
I am confused why people blame Gotze and Lewandowski for going for the money. Clubs like Chelsea, Man C, and R.Madrid definitely in for them and if all they cared about was the money Bayern wud not be their first destination....

That line is getting a bit boring now.

It isn't all about the money with City and Chelsea now mate, we are both in the top bracket of clubs that are able to challenge for most if not all trophies available, and as a club are now able to control what we want to pay out and not what a player demands because he feels like he is doing us a favour being here.
 
sam-caddick said:
BayernMan said:
I am confused why people blame Gotze and Lewandowski for going for the money. Clubs like Chelsea, Man C, and R.Madrid definitely in for them and if all they cared about was the money Bayern wud not be their first destination....

That line is getting a bit boring now.

It isn't all about the money with City and Chelsea now mate, we are both in the top bracket of clubs that are able to challenge for most if not all trophies available, and as a club are now able to control what we want to pay out and not what a player demands because he feels like he is doing us a favour being here.
I never said players who go to clubs like Man C or Chelsea choose their wages im saying that players would probably get a better wage offer from those clubs than Bayern.
 
Rhineland said:
Werder Bremen - 1. FC Nürnberg 3 - 3
Braunschweig - Vfb Stuttgart 0 - 4

to complete it

Werder Bremen 3-3 1. FC Nürnberg, att. 40,048
1:0 Dabanli (8., o.g),
2:0 Elia (34.),
2:1 Kiyotake (44.),
2:2 Drmic (53.),
3:2 Elia (66.),
3:3 Hlousek (70.)
sign of the times I: A club like Werder can´t compete anymore without CL money

Eintracht Braunschweig 0-4 VfB Stuttgart, att. 22,760
0:1 Ibisevic (40.),
0:2 Maxim (50.),
0:3 Traore (76.),
0:4 Harnik (86.)
sign of the times II: A club trying to play Bundesliga with a good second division team hasn´t any chance anymore. The worst start of a club into a Bundesliga season of all times

1 Borussia Dortmund 19 21-5

2 Bayern München 19 14-2
3 Bayer Leverkusen 18 17-7

4 Hannover 96 12 10-10

5 Hertha BSC 11 13-8
6 VfB Stuttgart 10 15-9

7 Borussia M'gladbach 10 17-13
8 FC Augsburg 10 8-11
9 Werder Bremen 10 8-11
10 TSG Hoffenheim 9 18-18
11 VfL Wolfsburg 9 9-9
12 FSV Mainz 05 9 10-15
13 Eintracht Frankfurt 8 10-12
14 FC Schalke 04 8 10-16
15 1.FC Nürnberg 5 9-12

16 Hamburger SV 5 12-19

17 SC Freiburg 3 8-17
18 Eintracht Braunschweig 1 3-18

top goal scorers
Vedad Ibisevic (VfB) 6
Nicolai Müller (Mainz) 6
Robert Lewandowski (BVB) 6
Anthony Modeste (TSG) 6

Bundesliga 2

1. Greuther Fürth 20 17-7
2.1. FC Köln 17 14-4

3. Union Berlin 17 17-12

4. FC St. Pauli 15 12-10
 
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