Bundesliga review

[Mantel]

Bayern's line-up today...

Starke - Rafinha, van Buyten, Boateng, Contento - Tymoshchuk, Can - Shaqiri, Pizarro, Ribéry - Gomez

Can there be more rotation?

It's working though. 3-0 HT.

 

[Maldeika]

Bundesliga fans - I'm interested in how many fans Dortmund have? They get the biggest attendances in Europe with great ticket prices but do they have a huge fanbase? They never struck me as a huge worldwide club although I'm sure they're getting a lot of new fans at the moment. The population of Dortmund is only 580,000 so where do all their fans come from? Around Germany? Or are they mostly locals?

I ask because I've been interested for a while in the "cheap prices, more fans" model and wonder if it's something City could use in England as we have a huge local fanbase (but not a huge global fanbase yet) but only a small % can afford to go to games every week.

The base of it is local - maybe not only city but in the area that has about 10 million inhabitants (so Schalke, Cologne, Leverkusen are not so far away either) even if they already have attracted some fans of other regions after their successes in the end of the 90s. And yes, a lot added to that in the last 3 years. And that are not local fans.

 

[Maldeika]

Bayern's line-up today...

Starke - Rafinha, van Buyten, Boateng, Contento - Tymoshchuk, Can - Shaqiri, Pizarro, Ribéry - Gomez

Can there be more rotation?

It's working though. 3-0 HT.

At the end 4-0. Boateng! shot a pretty 1:0 (it was his second goal in the Bundesliga - the first one he did 3 or 4 weeks ago) and had the assist for the 2:0.
Emre Can was playing 90 minutes and the only substitute was the 17-year-old Pierre-Emile Hojbjerg (a son of a danish professor for anthropology) who is youngest debutant ever in the Bundesliga for Bayern - that beat the debuts of Alaba and Kroos. Schweinsteiger, Lahm and Müller did not even make the bench.

 

[baildon blue]

World soccer this month says that the germans have the best league.Ive been thinking the same for a while.I wouldnt be surprised, Dortmund played Bayern Munich in the final of the champions league at Wembley

 

[Ruhr]

Bundesliga fans - I'm interested in how many fans Dortmund have? They get the biggest attendances in Europe with great ticket prices but do they have a huge fanbase? They never struck me as a huge worldwide club although I'm sure they're getting a lot of new fans at the moment. The population of Dortmund is only 580,000 so where do all their fans come from? Around Germany? Or are they mostly locals?

I ask because I've been interested for a while in the "cheap prices, more fans" model and wonder if it's something City could use in England as we have a huge local fanbase (but not a huge global fanbase yet) but only a small % can afford to go to games every week.

The base of it is local - maybe not only city but in the area that has about 10 million inhabitants (so Schalke, Cologne, Leverkusen are not so far away either) even if they already have attracted some fans of other regions after their successes in the end of the 90s. And yes, a lot added to that in the last 3 years. And that are not local fans.

Sorry for that huge picture.
It shows the fan base of Schalke (blue) and Bayern München (red) by the location of their fan clubs. Well fan clubs are not fans in general, but i think, that the fan base of Borussia Dortmund should be similiar to that of Schalke in that map. A huge local base in the Ruhr valley, where about 5-6 million people live in about 20 cities. The Ruhr Valley is practically divided in Blue or Yellow (with some local fans for MSV Duisburg, VfL Bochum, RW Essen, RW Oberhausen, who have the bad luck of being stuck between the two giants)
You also see in that map that a lot of Schalke (and Dortmund fans also) come from towns like Münster, Bielefeld or Paderborn or from near the dutch border. That is all about 90 minutes driving time on the Autobahn.

 

[Rhineland]

I wouldnt be surprised, Dortmund played Bayern Munich in the final of the champions league at Wembley

Yep, no surprise here, so let's hope for a bit of surprise and bring on 'el clásico' instead.

 

[Maldeika]

I add another picture - the 16 German states.

The states with the most inhabitants are Bavaria (Bayern) and Northrhein-Westfalia (Nordrhein-Westfalen) - but Bavaria has more area. And you see that Bayern - even if the have fans all over Germany - have a high density in Bavaria. But there was no Bavarian club that always was in the Bundesliga. 1860 always was a city club whereas Bayern fans were out of the region. Nürnberg fans are more out of the Nürnberg region...

The average Bayern fan travels to the match 200 kilometres.

 

[bayern blade]

I add another picture - the 16 German states.

The states with the most inhabitants are Bavaria (Bayern) and Northrhein-Westfalia (Nordrhein-Westfalen) - but Bavaria has more area. And you see that Bayern - even if the have fans all over Germany - have a high density in Bavaria. But there was no Bavarian club that always was in the Bundesliga. 1860 always was a city club whereas Bayern fans were out of the region. Nürnberg fans are more out of the Nürnberg region...

The average Bayern fan travels to the match 200 kilometres.

I thought it was around a hundred, is the 200 there and back ?

I'll only be travelling about 30 (each way), on Saturday :-)

 

[Ruhr]

Results:

SC Freiburg 3-1 Hannover 96, att. 24,000
1:0 Christian Schulz (24.,og), 1:1 Rausch (36.), 2:1 Max Kruse (44.), 3:1 Schmid (73.)
Freiburg on the road to Eruope. Great season for them

VfL Wolfsburg 2-2 1899 Hoffenheim, att. 24,221
1:0 Arnold (13.), 1:1 Salihovic (35., pen), 1:2 Beck (63.), 2:2 Naldo (86.)
Maybe one more point to save Hoffenheim from relegation

Fortuna Düsseldorf 2-2 Werder Bremen, att 54,000
1:0 Reisinger (2.), 1:1 Junuzovic (16.), 2:1 Reisinger (48.), 2:2 Latka (71., og)
A horrible season for Bremen, lucky not to be relegated in the end

Bayern München 4-0 1. FC Nürnberg, att 71,000
1:0 Boateng (5.), 2:0 Gomez (17.), 3:0 Rafinha (24.), 4:0 Shaqiri (56.)
Bayern´s B-Team without any problems. Bayern-Keeper Starke saved a penalty with his head, at least one remarkable moment

Mainz 05 1-2 Hamburger SV, att. 34,000
0:1 Son (61.), 0:2 Son (81.), 1:2 Parker (86.)
I think, both clubs will miss Europe in the end

Greuther Fürth 1-6 Borussia Dortmund, att. 18,000
0:1 Götze (12.), 0:2 Gündogan (15.), 0:3 Blaszczykowski (29.), 0:4 Gündogan (33.), 0:5 Götze (45.), 1:5 Prib (71.), 1:6 Lewandowski (80.)
Mourinho was there. In Fürth. LOL. What has he expected to learn from that match?

Schalke 04 2-2 Bayer Leverkusen, att. 61,619
0:1 Rolfes (39.), 0:2 Kießling (58.), 1:2 Pukki (71.), 2:2 Raffael (87.,pen)
Schalke with a late start. Quality match from both sides

 

[Maldeika]

I add another picture - the 16 German states.

The states with the most inhabitants are Bavaria (Bayern) and Northrhein-Westfalia (Nordrhein-Westfalen) - but Bavaria has more area. And you see that Bayern - even if the have fans all over Germany - have a high density in Bavaria. But there was no Bavarian club that always was in the Bundesliga. 1860 always was a city club whereas Bayern fans were out of the region. Nürnberg fans are more out of the Nürnberg region...

The average Bayern fan travels to the match 200 kilometres.

I thought it was around a hundred, is the 200 there and back ?

I'll only be travelling about 30 (each way), on Saturday :-)

I heared the number Saturday - so I just repeated. I would not be surprised if it would be one way - I know fan busses from my area (around 350 kilometres from Munich) that go there every fortnight - and a lot of the people have season tickets.