Bundesliga review

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DD said:
adrianr said:
For the fans who follow it more than I, am I right in saying that last season Dortmund were good in the league whilst being pants in the CL, whereas this year they're really good in the CL yet pants in the league? Suggesting perhaps Klopp still hasnt got the hang of juggling both?

Last season started the same way but the recovery started on the 7th game. From then on Dortmund didn't lose in the last 28 league games and won the Cup too. However, Dortmund had still lost more games at this time last year.

I think there seems to be a little motivation gone out of the league performances over this last few weeks. Bayern are steaming clear to such an extent that they appear uncatchable.

The loss of Kagawa has been noticed with Marco Reus being a very different type of player.

The squad is also very thin and injuries get felt. The team that played against Schalke had four players missing and it was very noticeable. It's not like City where there is £150 of talent waiting in the wings.

The league has gone and the priority for Dortmund is quite clearly qualifying for the last sixteen of the Champions League and qualifying for the competition again next season.

Bayern have simply spent too much and strenghthened their squad so much that the league could be a foregone conclusion for some years. Not that Bayern buy titles of course!

Actually - we produced half of the goals and assists this season with players that have been in the Bayern youth with 16. In more than 2 thirds of our goals in the league one of our own youth players has had a hand in with a goal or an assist. There is not much teams in Germany - and not in Europe - that can tell stories like this.

Dortmund is not one of this...

The series right now does not have much to do with this years transfers - but a lot more with last years losses and players that are hungry for success...
 
bayern blade said:
DD said:
adrianr said:
For the fans who follow it more than I, am I right in saying that last season Dortmund were good in the league whilst being pants in the CL, whereas this year they're really good in the CL yet pants in the league? Suggesting perhaps Klopp still hasnt got the hang of juggling both?

Last season started the same way but the recovery started on the 7th game. From then on Dortmund didn't lose in the last 28 league games and won the Cup too. However, Dortmund had still lost more games at this time last year.

I think there seems to be a little motivation gone out of the league performances over this last few weeks. Bayern are steaming clear to such an extent that they appear uncatchable.

The loss of Kagawa has been noticed with Marco Reus being a very different type of player.

The squad is also very thin and injuries get felt. The team that played against Schalke had four players missing and it was very noticeable. It's not like City where there is £150 of talent waiting in the wings.

The league has gone and the priority for Dortmund is quite clearly qualifying for the last sixteen of the Champions League and qualifying for the competition again next season.

Bayern have simply spent too much and strenghthened their squad so much that the league could be a foregone conclusion for some years. Not that Bayern buy titles of course!

We don't, all the money spent by Bayern in summer came from the club's bank account. No borrowing and no debts incurred. The money is there to spend and it is our money, not even UEFA want to make that illegal !

Sorry mate, but that sounds like something our neighbours from slightly out of town would say. Your money or not, you have more of it than anyone else in the league and you can spend it to help you keep winning it. Of course UEFA doesnt want to make it illegal, your own man Mr Rumminege has been lobbying to protect the very situation you're in now.
 
bayern blade said:
DD said:
adrianr said:
For the fans who follow it more than I, am I right in saying that last season Dortmund were good in the league whilst being pants in the CL, whereas this year they're really good in the CL yet pants in the league? Suggesting perhaps Klopp still hasnt got the hang of juggling both?

Last season started the same way but the recovery started on the 7th game. From then on Dortmund didn't lose in the last 28 league games and won the Cup too. However, Dortmund had still lost more games at this time last year.

I think there seems to be a little motivation gone out of the league performances over this last few weeks. Bayern are steaming clear to such an extent that they appear uncatchable.

The loss of Kagawa has been noticed with Marco Reus being a very different type of player.

The squad is also very thin and injuries get felt. The team that played against Schalke had four players missing and it was very noticeable. It's not like City where there is £150 of talent waiting in the wings.

The league has gone and the priority for Dortmund is quite clearly qualifying for the last sixteen of the Champions League and qualifying for the competition again next season.

Bayern have simply spent too much and strenghthened their squad so much that the league could be a foregone conclusion for some years. Not that Bayern buy titles of course!

We don't, all the money spent by Bayern in summer came from the club's bank account. No borrowing and no debts incurred. The money is there to spend and it is our money, not even UEFA want to make that illegal !

you don't print the money that goes into your account, therefore somebody else gives it to you whether it be fans investing into you by their support or sponsors who like to be associated with your brand.

No difference to City who have sponsors and a very rich man who wants to invest in the club by putting money into our bank account.

It's the United's who are saddled with debt that are the bad eggs, not people with genuine money who make genuine investments into football.

Bayern don't like us because you're scared, nothing to do with morals or you'd happily hand back the titles and CL's you won with a mostly bought team.
 
Will always be hard for teams like Dortmund, Winning a league 2 seasons on the trot and still in pot 4, it's only our 2nd season in this competition but we already know how it works
 
sergiokun said:
davymcfc said:
eljorgo said:
quite shit league, only Bayern and Dortmund are at the PL Level.
Crazy statement.


This


Germany is a decent league with big grounds, there fans are miles better than our fans

No its a shite league. I followed Cologne around Germany in the 80's. All I did was spend next to nothing on train fares and tickets, getting *issed on beer and stuffing my then thin face with currywursts. Yeah a shite league, very expensive too.
 
Ruhr said:
and there was a wall and no internet at the time.

Plus, there were no Romania and Albanian streets gangs selling crap and begging. Back then you had the pull out seats on the trains and the Deutschmark made things a little cheaper. Watched Cologne play Bremen away from the top of a tennis club at behind one end as they were rebuilding that end. Cologne were robbed, with Littbarski being sent of in the last minute. Still dicked Dortmund 3-1 away from home that season.
 
adrianr said:
Sorry mate, but that sounds like something our neighbours from slightly out of town would say. Your money or not, you have more of it than anyone else in the league and you can spend it to help you keep winning it. Of course UEFA doesnt want to make it illegal, your own man Mr Rumminege has been lobbying to protect the very situation you're in now.

Not so mate, your neighbours are up to their eyes in debt. Bayern are spending their own money, we don't have any debt.
That is due to success on the field and good management, I don't see anything wrong with that being rewarded. Financially there is no comparison between us and Man Utd.
 
JoeMercer'sWay said:
you don't print the money that goes into your account, therefore somebody else gives it to you whether it be fans investing into you by their support or sponsors who like to be associated with your brand.

No difference to City who have sponsors and a very rich man who wants to invest in the club by putting money into our bank account.

It's the United's who are saddled with debt that are the bad eggs, not people with genuine money who make genuine investments into football.


Bayern don't like us because you're scared, nothing to do with morals or you'd happily hand back the titles and CL's you won with a mostly bought team
A - Well I disagree obviously but I'm not going to argue about it, it's all opinions.

B - I assure you we aren't scared of City or anyone else, the way we are playing atm we don't need to be. Nor do we dislike you as a club, I haven't heard anyone at Bayern mention City since the group phase last year let alone say anything derogatory.
For what it's worth although I disagree with the foreign ownership in the English game whether it be the Glazers, Abramovitsch or Mansour et al I've always quite liked City personally, a couple of mates of mine from the old days of following the Stranglers on tour were big City fans.

C - That has to be a wind up :-)
 
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