bayern blade said:Nor do we dislike you as a club, I haven't heard anyone at Bayern mention City since the group phase last year let alone say anything derogatory.
bayern blade said:JoeMercer'sWay said:you don't print the money that goes into your account, therefore somebody else gives it to you whether it be fans investing into you by their support or sponsors who like to be associated with your brand.
No difference to City who have sponsors and a very rich man who wants to invest in the club by putting money into our bank account.
It's the United's who are saddled with debt that are the bad eggs, not people with genuine money who make genuine investments into football.
Bayern don't like us because you're scared, nothing to do with morals or you'd happily hand back the titles and CL's you won with a mostly bought teamA - Well I disagree obviously but I'm not going to argue about it, it's all opinions.
B - I assure you we aren't scared of City or anyone else, the way we are playing atm we don't need to be. Nor do we dislike you as a club, I haven't heard anyone at Bayern mention City since the group phase last year let alone say anything derogatory.
For what it's worth although I disagree with the foreign ownership in the English game whether it be the Glazers, Abramovitsch or Mansour et al I've always quite liked City personally, a couple of mates of mine from the old days of following the Stranglers on tour were big City fans.
C - That has to be a wind up :-)
JoeMercer'sWay said:So to sum up none of those actually came all the way through your academy.
Poachers.
hideniton said:JoeMercer'sWay said:So to sum up none of those actually came all the way through your academy.
Poachers.
Now all that's left is to make that same list for all 8 of the 2001 CL-Quarter-Finalists to see how many homegrown talent they had in their squads at the time. Apart from Ajax almost none of the big clubs had a successful youth concept going for them during the 90's up to the first years of the new millenium. So no surprise they looked for talented prospects elswhere.
So what's your point? That Bayern invested shitloads of money like we did? Nowadays that's perfectly true but back then they actually tended to invested very carefully and had a low risk philosophy when it comes to transfer activity. Totally in contrast to clubs like Inter, Milan or Madrid back then. You make it sound like they just went on a shopping spree and robbed other clubs off their top players, while most of the players they purchased were acutally far from the finished article. They developed considerably at Bayern. Only a few of those players were considered world class a year before their CL win.
Barcelona adapted the Ajax youth system and now Bayern learned from that and reel in talented youngsters from all over Germany and Austria as early as possible for their youth camps. Istead of swearing on them we should learn from them and adapt the successful structures.
LoveCity said:Your head honchos said some disgusting, derogatory, and borderline racist (the usual "Arab" stereotype which is like calling all Germans "Nazis") stuff about our club a year ago.
That's where a lot of the recent resentment has come from.
JoeMercer'sWay said:2010: Butt(Leverkusen & Hamburg), Lahm(HG), Van Buyten(loads of clubs), Demichelis(River Plate), Badstuber(Stuttgart as a kid), Van Bommel(Countless clubs), Schweinsteiger(HG), Robben(loads of clubs), Altintop(see Robben), Muller(HG), Olic(see Robben). Subs: Rensing(HG), Gorlitz(1860 Munich), Diego Contento(HG), Pranjic(see Robben), Tymoschuk, Klose & Gomez(non-HG).
so that's 5 out of 18 with Germany's fabled youth system, 2 are back-ups and the other they'll claim in Badstuber came from Stuttgart's academy, so was poached. They'll want Kroos added in for 2012 to make it 5 in the starting line-up, but he did come from Hansa Rostock so you know, so much for the fabled Bavarian Bayern academy.
Really they're a club no different to any other top club, just they have the entire German league to poach youngsters from to pass of as their own, so we'll do the same, only difference is we can't buy first teamers like Bayern because their FFPR allows their investors to pay for players but not ours, such a good club.
bayern blade said:LoveCity said:Your head honchos said some disgusting, derogatory, and borderline racist (the usual "Arab" stereotype which is like calling all Germans "Nazis") stuff about our club a year ago.
That's where a lot of the recent resentment has come from.
As I said at the time what was actually said and what was printed in the British tabloids was two different things.
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JoeMercer'sWay said:2010: Butt(Leverkusen & Hamburg), Lahm(HG), Van Buyten(loads of clubs), Demichelis(River Plate), Badstuber(Stuttgart as a kid), Van Bommel(Countless clubs), Schweinsteiger(HG), Robben(loads of clubs), Altintop(see Robben), Muller(HG), Olic(see Robben). Subs: Rensing(HG), Gorlitz(1860 Munich), Diego Contento(HG), Pranjic(see Robben), Tymoschuk, Klose & Gomez(non-HG).
so that's 5 out of 18 with Germany's fabled youth system, 2 are back-ups and the other they'll claim in Badstuber came from Stuttgart's academy, so was poached. They'll want Kroos added in for 2012 to make it 5 in the starting line-up, but he did come from Hansa Rostock so you know, so much for the fabled Bavarian Bayern academy.
Really they're a club no different to any other top club, just they have the entire German league to poach youngsters from to pass of as their own, so we'll do the same, only difference is we can't buy first teamers like Bayern because their FFPR allows their investors to pay for players but not ours, such a good club.
Er...so we buy players like anyone else ? How is that poaching ffs ? Are you seriously suggesting the entire squad should come through the youth system.
A ridiculous post.
JoeMercer'sWay said:no it isn't, taking players from other clubs youth teams is poaching, that's what you've done for several of "your" academy graduates.
You get given money like any other club, you then spend it on other clubs players and occassionally you bring somebody through who is actually your own player. Yet the way you do it is apparently morally superior and you take the moral high ground about it and we should have rules against us for doing what you've done for over 15 years.