Bundesliga review

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LoveCity said:
How do you Germans rate Holtby, Draxler, Fuchs, Herrmann, and Harnik? I have been watching a lot of Bundesliga this year and besides the obvious candidates at Bayern and BVB, these players really impress me and some of them I'd love to see at City... especially as some of them are so quick and skillful, something our squad is painfully lacking. Draxler looked amazing at weekend against Gladbach.

Draxler is a big talent and could be a big player, I've never understood the fuss about Holtby, he's average imo.
 
LoveCity said:
I have also been impressed by Fuchs at Schalke, he is an assists machine from left-back with fantastic crossing ability like a Bundesliga version of Leighton Baines.

Fuchs. Müller loves him. That nutmeg was not the first time. I remember a 6:2 against Austria were he really toasted him.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eoO1M4cJVo[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2Fp5KgECg8[/youtube]

Fuchs is the no. 5 and captain of the Austrians. Watch Alaba after Özil's 4:1. ;) - I know just one other guy that would hit his fist into the grass after a goal like this...
 
Recently the duel Bayern vs. Dortmund was rated as the german el classico. Which is nonsense, if you look on the history. Every decade one or two clubs had challenged FC Bayern, but often not more than for 4 or 5 years. So Dortmund still has to prove...
Leads me to the question, what the big clubs in germany are. The following list of TOP TENS may give a hint, as some clubs turn up nearly in every of these categories.

THE TOP TENS OF GERMAN FOOTBALL

Average Attendances this season

1. Borussia Dortmund 80,567
2. Bayern München 71,000
3. FC Schalke 04 61,092
4. Hamburger SV 53,246
5. Bor. Mönchengladbach 48,532
6. VfB Stuttgart 48,117
7. Eintracht Frankfurt 46, 706
8. Fortuna Düsseldorf 44,170
9. Hannover 96 43, 688
10. 1. FC Nürnberg 42, 315

Best all time average attendances

1. Borussia Dortmund 80,521
2. FC Bayern München 69,000
3. FC Schalke 04 61,387
4. Hamburger SV 56,008
5. VfB Stuttgart 55,090
6. Hertha BSC 53,559
7. Borussia Mönchengladbach 51,847
8. 1. FC Köln 49,324
9. Eintracht Frankfurt 48,324
10. 1. FC Kaiserslautern 46,392

German Championships since 1903

1. Bayern München 22
2. 1. FC Nürnberg 9
3. Borussia Dortmund 8
4. Schalke 04 7
5. Hamburger SV 6
6. VfB Stuttgart 5
6. Borussia Mönchengladbach 5
8.1. FC Kaiserslautern 4
8. Werder Bremen 4
10. Spvgg Fürth 3
10. VfB Leipzig/Lok Leipzig 3
10. 1.FC Köln 3

Bundesliga Champions since 1963

1. Bayern München 21
2. Borussia Dortmund 5
2. Bor. Mönchengladbach 5
4. Werder Bremen 4
5. Hamburger SV 3
5. VfB Stuttgart 3
7. 1. FC Kaiserslautern 2
7. 1. FC Köln 2
9. Eintracht Braunschweig 1
9. 1860 München 1
9. 1. FC Nürnberg 1
9. VfL Wolfsburg 1

all time table of the Bundesliga (current standings)

1. Bayern München 3133 points
2. Werder Bremen 2551
3. Hamburger SV 2534
4. VFB Stuttgart 2453
5. Borussia Dortmund 2377
6. Borussia Mönchengladbach 2211
7. Schalke 04 2144
8. 1.FC Köln 2140
9. 1. FC Kaiserslauten 2094
10. Eintracht Frankfurt 2004

German European Cups winners

1. Bayern München 4 Champions/ 1 UEFA/ 1 Cup winners cup
2. Borussia Dortmund 1 champions/1 cup winners cup
2. Hamburger SV 1 champions/ 1 cup winners cup
4. Borussia Mönchengladbach 2 Uefa cups
5. Schalke 04 1 Uefa cup
5. Bayer Leverkusen 1 Uefa cup
5. Eintracht Frankfurt 1 Uefa cup
5. Werder Bremen 1 cup winners cup
5. 1. FC Magdeburg 1 cup winners cup

German cup winners

1. Bayern München 15
2. Werder Bremen 6
3. Schalke 04 5
4. 1.FC Köln 4
4. 1. FC Nürnberg 4
6. Eintracht Frankfurt 4
7. Hamburger SV 3
7. Borussia Dortmund 3
7. VfB Stuttgart 3
7. Borussia Mönchengladbach 3


Club members

1. Bayern München 187,865
2. Schalke 04 111,111
3. Hamburger SV 71,557
4. Borussia Dortmund 70,000
5. Borussia Mönchengladbach 55.830
6. 1. FC Köln 55,760
7. VFB Stuttgart 45,310
8. Werder Bremen 40,400
9. Hertha BSC 29,165
10. Bayer Leverkusen 25,556

Wonder how this top tens would look like in England?
 
Oh that was harsh on Dortmund, don't think it was a handball on the line by Schmelzer (seemed to hit his knee and just avoid his hand) but cost them a man and goal (penalty).

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Now Dortmund 1-2 Wolfsburg, they looked comfortable before the sending off.
 
Hamburger SV : 1899 Hoffenheim 2:0 (1:0)
Borussia Dortmund : VfL Wolfsburg 2:3 (1:2)
VfB Stuttgart : FC Schalke 04 3:1 (2:1)
1. FC Nürnberg : Fortuna Düsseldorf 2:0 (1:0)
SC Freiburg : SpVgg Greuther Fürth 1:0 (1:0)
FC Augsburg : Bayern München 0:2 (0:1)
Eintracht Frankfurt : Werder Bremen 4:1 (0:0)
Bor. Mönchengladbach : 1. FSV Mainz 05 tomorrow
Hannover 96 : Bayer Leverkusen Leverkusen tomorrow

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LoveCity said:
Oh that was harsh on Dortmund, don't think it was a handball on the line by Schmelzer (seemed to hit his knee and just avoid his hand) but cost them a man and goal (penalty).

Wrong decision but Dortmund's first goal was offside and the second was never a penalty so they can't complain.
The title race looks over, Bayern are running away with it.
 
bayern blade said:
LoveCity said:
Oh that was harsh on Dortmund, don't think it was a handball on the line by Schmelzer (seemed to hit his knee and just avoid his hand) but cost them a man and goal (penalty).

Wrong decision but Dortmund's first goal was offside and the second was never a penalty so they can't complain.
The title race looks over, Bayern are running away with it.

Yeah they only had to play with one man down for 60 minutes. No biggy.
 
qop said:
bayern blade said:
LoveCity said:
Oh that was harsh on Dortmund, don't think it was a handball on the line by Schmelzer (seemed to hit his knee and just avoid his hand) but cost them a man and goal (penalty).

Wrong decision but Dortmund's first goal was offside and the second was never a penalty so they can't complain.
The title race looks over, Bayern are running away with it.

Yeah they only had to play with one man down for 60 minutes. No biggy.

Usually that is better than having the opponent play with one man less... ;) - ask Bayern...
 
qop said:
bayern blade said:
LoveCity said:
Oh that was harsh on Dortmund, don't think it was a handball on the line by Schmelzer (seemed to hit his knee and just avoid his hand) but cost them a man and goal (penalty).

Wrong decision but Dortmund's first goal was offside and the second was never a penalty so they can't complain.
The title race looks over, Bayern are running away with it.

Yeah they only had to play with one man down for 60 minutes. No biggy.

Point is they went 1-0 up due to an offside goal on 6 minutes, if the ref had disallowed it as he should have the game would have gone completely differently.
You win some you lose some.
 
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