Bundesliga review

[davymcfc]

wonder, if City plays another pre season match in northern germany in 2013?

Possibly, I think the city fans love travelling to Germany. Schalke, dortmund, hamburg and bayern have all sounded like decent trips by those who went.

 

[Ruhr]

I´ve heard, some even liked the trip to Wolfsburg. Strange but true

 

[bayern-flo2]

I see dortmund lost. I was very impressed with dortmund in the champions league. Do you think they are putting all their eggs in one basket?

They aren't quite as good as the CL form makes them look.

They are good no doubt but not that constant like in the past. The easiness has gone und now they have to face teams who play in a different way against them. Last season they'd have won a game like last saturday against Wolfsburg.

But we should not forget that this is a very young team with huge success in the last two seasons. Now they want to and do proove themselves in the CL. And imo they can make it to the final especially if the opponents don't adjust their gameplay to the pressing and counter attacking of Dortmund.

Dortmund deserves every respect for what they've achieved in the last years!
But last season I personally couldn't stand the kind of Dortmund-fan who made jokes on Bayern. People forget that Bayern reached both finals and made 73 points in the Bundesliga. That and 3 euros will get me a beer, but deserves a little bit of respect.
Certainly every club has those kind of fans...

 

[LoveCity]

Bundesliga Round 16 review show in English. Credit: mussambani

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[Ruhr]

After weeks of protest and a support boycott by the organized fans, the majority of the 36 Bundesliga clubs today voted for the plan for more stadium security. In recent weeks there had been some improvements to the original plans following the fan protests, but the most controversial part, the possible reduction of the amount of away tickets for some high-risk matches, is still part of the plan. Only FC St. Pauli and Union Berlin voted against the measures as a whole.
The 36 Bundesliga clubs had been under high pressure from politicians and a media campaign led by the mass tabloid BILD and the whole thing looks like it is just about presenting a result to keep politics out of governing football.
Will be interesting to see, how the different groups of fans will react. I think, a minority will further radicalize, but that could also mean a split within the fan base and a change in the ultra-dominated fan culture in german grounds.

by the way, in all the discussions of the last week, it was often about "the english way or not". Still interesting, that the PL is always a benchmark, when germans discuss about the future of their football

 

[Maldeika]

After weeks of protest and a support boycott by the organized fans, the majority of the 36 Bundesliga clubs today voted for the plan for more stadium security. In recent weeks there had been some improvements to the original plans following the fan protests, but the most controversial part, the possible reduction of the amount of away tickets for some high-risk matches, is still part of the plan. Only FC St. Pauli and Union Berlin voted against the measures as a whole.
The 36 Bundesliga clubs had been under high pressure from politicians and a media campaign led by the mass tabloid BILD and the whole thing looks like it is just about presenting a result to keep politics out of governing football.
Will be interesting to see, how the different groups of fans will react. I think, a minority will further radicalize, but that could also mean a split within the fan base and a change in the ultra-dominated fan culture in german grounds.

by the way, in all the discussions of the last week, it was often about "the english way or not". Still interesting, that the PL is always a benchmark, when germans discuss about the future of their football

I know that the following link is in German - but @Ruhr - what do you think about this?

http://www.spiegel.de/sport/fussbal...zis-und-hooligans-unter-ordnern-a-872213.html

 

[LoveCity]

by the way, in all the discussions of the last week, it was often about "the english way or not". Still interesting, that the PL is always a benchmark, when germans discuss about the future of their football

You're fooked if you follow the English way, our footballing culture has died and gone to hell. There are still pockets of passionate fans but at every ground now it seems like at least 80% of people sit and aren't very involved except on special occasions (entire stadium was stood against United and very involved).

 

[Bembeltown]

After weeks of protest and a support boycott by the organized fans, the majority of the 36 Bundesliga clubs today voted for the plan for more stadium security. In recent weeks there had been some improvements to the original plans following the fan protests, but the most controversial part, the possible reduction of the amount of away tickets for some high-risk matches, is still part of the plan. Only FC St. Pauli and Union Berlin voted against the measures as a whole.
The 36 Bundesliga clubs had been under high pressure from politicians and a media campaign led by the mass tabloid BILD and the whole thing looks like it is just about presenting a result to keep politics out of governing football.
Will be interesting to see, how the different groups of fans will react. I think, a minority will further radicalize, but that could also mean a split within the fan base and a change in the ultra-dominated fan culture in german grounds.

by the way, in all the discussions of the last week, it was often about "the english way or not". Still interesting, that the PL is always a benchmark, when germans discuss about the future of their football

I know that the following link is in German - but @Ruhr - what do you think about this?

http://www.spiegel.de/sport/fussbal...zis-und-hooligans-unter-ordnern-a-872213.html

Short summary for the english folks:
Its basically an article about an incident that happened during the BvB-Schalke Derby. Schalke Fan was beaten unconscious and claims that guys who attacked him are part of Dortmunds security team.

Several other people, including a police officer, claim that the security team is getting slowly inflitrated by German Neo Nazi´s, some of them even members of one of Dortmunds Ultras groups called Desperados.

 

[Bembeltown]

by the way, in all the discussions of the last week, it was often about "the english way or not". Still interesting, that the PL is always a benchmark, when germans discuss about the future of their football

You're fooked if you follow the English way, our footballing culture has died and gone to hell. There are still pockets of passionate fans but at every ground now it seems like at least 80% of people sit and aren't very involved except on special occasions (entire stadium was stood against United and very involved).

There was an article on the Kicker (or was it Spiegel online?) a couple of days ago about FC United of Manchester and one of their "leaders" basically said the same thing. Seems like a lot of english fans travel to Germany on a regular basis to experience "proper" football atmosphere because it basically died in England.

He was impressed with people in Germany actually standing up against this new security paper as he could never imagine something similar happen in England.

Other than that I believe that everyone who follows football across Europe pretty much knows that the English way is definitely not a rolemodel to desire....

I personally would prefer if the DFL and the various Ultras groups would be willing to accept compromises. E.g. Ultras groups agree to stop using pyrotechnics while the DFL drops some of the silly rules like limiting the amount of tickets the visiting team can receive in case it is declared a "high risk match"...

Derbys are just half the fun without opposition fans to abuse and sing about. :)

 

[Ruhr]

There was an article on the Kicker (or was it Spiegel online?) a couple of days ago about FC United of Manchester and one of their "leaders" basically said the same thing.

haha, don´t think they are very popular as experts on this forum