Bundesliga review

[DD]

Just out of curiosity, I understood that you adopted Alemannia as your second team, but are you/have you actually been living in Germany or how did your relationship to Aachen develop?

Mainly interested to see how other folks pick their second teams as I picked City as mine due to Rösler joining you lot. Always interesting to hear the storys other people have to tell. :)

I've never actually lived in Germany but adopted Alemennia only a couple of seasons ago after going on a road trip through Germany and taking in a game on the way back.

The team were pretty hopeless at the time (as they are now) but we had a great time on the terraces, the fans were very friendly, the city fantastic and a love affair was born. :)

From this, we have made a few friends in Aachen and I manage to get there a couple of times a year,

 

[bayern blade]

I've never actually lived in Germany but adopted Alemennia only a couple of seasons ago after going on a road trip through Germany and taking in a game on the way back.

The team were pretty hopeless at the time (as they are now) but we had a great time on the terraces, the fans were very friendly, the city fantastic and a love affair was born. :)

From this, we have made a few friends in Aachen and I manage to get there a couple of times a year,

Bayern are currently live on Sport 1 playing a benefit game to raise cash for Aachen.

HT 2-1 Bayern....

 

[Bembeltown]

Actually some really decent and objective view on football violence in German stadia.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StYvU3PpCdo&feature=player_embedded" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StYvU3Pp ... r_embedded</a>

Unfortunately its only available in German, but it should be interesting for the likes of Ruhr, Blade etc. at least.

 

[Ruhr]

Schalke 5-4 Hannover 96 att 60,811
1:0Farfan (44.)
2:0Draxler (49.)
2:1da Silva Pinto (55.)
2:2Huszti (59.)
3:2Höger (64.)
4:2Marica (67.)
4:3Huszti (68.)
5:3Holtby (88.)
5:4M. Diouf (90. + 2)
funny game, really, but a hell for both coaches

VfL Wolfsburg 2-0 VfB Stuttgart att.24,125
1:0Diego (51.)
2:0Madlung (67.)
good start für Wolfsburg´s new coach Dieter Hecking

1899 Hoffenheim 0-0 Bor M´gladbach att. 26,750

Bayer Leverkusen 3-1 Eintracht Frankfurt att. 28767
1:0Boenisch (31.)
2:0Kießling (33.)
3:0Schürrle (58.)
3:1Meier (78.)
Frankfurt´s fans more on fire than their team

Bayern München 2-0 Greuther Fürth att 71,000
1:0Mandzukic (26.)
2:0Mandzukic (61.)

Mainz 05 0-0 SC Freiburg att 27,519

Werder Bremen 0-5 Borussia Dortmund att 42,100
0:1Reus (9.)
0:2M. Götze (19.)
0:3Felipe Santana (48.)
0:4Lewandowski (81.)
0:5Blaszczykowski (85.)
brilliant performance of BVB against a helpless Werder

to make it complete

1.FC Nürnberg 1-1 Hamburger SV att 43,000
0:1 Rudnevs (70.),
1:1 Pekhart (75.)

Fortuna Düsseldorf - FC Augsburg att 41,000
0:1 Mölders (40.),
0:2 Koo (45.),
0:3 Mölders (71.),
1:3 Reisinger (73.),
2:3 Reisinger (90.+1)

1 Bayern München 45 46:7
2 Bay.Leverkusen 36 36:23
3 Bor.Dortmund 33 40:20

4 Etr.Frankfurt 30 34:30

5 FC Schalke 04 28 32:29
6 SC Freiburg 27 24:18

7 FSV Mainz 05 27 24:21
8 Bor.M'gladbach 26 25:26
9 Hamburger SV 25 19:22
10 VfB Stuttgart 25 21:30
11 Hannover 96 23 36:36
12 Werder Bremen 22 28:34
13 VfL Wolfsburg 22 19:27
14 Fort.Düsseldorf 21 22:25
15 1.FC Nürnberg 21 18:23

16 TSG Hoffenheim 13 23:41

17 FC Augsburg 12 15:31
18 Greuther Fürth 9 11:30

 

[German Blues]

Re: AW: Bundesliga review

Actually some really decent and objective view on football violence in German stadia.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StYvU3PpCdo&feature=player_embedded" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StYvU3Pp ... r_embedded</a>

Unfortunately its only available in German, but it should be interesting for the likes of Ruhr, Blade etc. at least.

Thanks Bembeltown. Very interesting. Cheers

 

[Ruhr]

Bundesliga 2011/ 12 data
Revenues: 2,08 Billion Euros (first time more than 2 billions)

Sponsoring, advertising: 553,17 millions
Media: 546, 19
Ticket sales: 440, 85
Transfers: 209, 82
Merchandising: 93,81
Others: 237,67

14 of the 18 clubs made a profit in that season. For the first time the clubs of Bundesliga and Bundesliga 2 invested more than 100 million Euros in their youth academies. The costs for players and coaches fell to 37,8 % of the overall revenues (after more than 40 % the season before)

 

[Anonymous]

So what are the facts behind the stats Ruhr? That's a hell of a decrease in player/coach costs. Is it that more youth players and cheaper imports are coming in on lower wages/lower fees and the established players (eg Dzeko) have moved on for bigger money? Or is there something else going on?

Like I say, a hell of an achievement as the quality does not appear to have diminished in the process.

 

[Ruhr]

So what are the facts behind the stats Ruhr? That's a hell of a decrease in player/coach costs. Is it that more youth players and cheaper imports are coming in on lower wages/lower fees and the established players (eg Dzeko) have moved on for bigger money? Or is there something else going on?

Like I say, a hell of an achievement as the quality does not appear to have diminished in the process.

haha, had a closer look at the original report, because i found that strange, too. That was some misinterpretation by the paper i read. never trust the press. Sorry for that. It´s not 37 % of overall costs, but of overall revenues, which then simply means that revenues are growing faster than wages of players. (revenues last 4 years +21,4 %, costs for players+coaches last 4 years + 16,1 %)

 

[Anonymous]

So what are the facts behind the stats Ruhr? That's a hell of a decrease in player/coach costs. Is it that more youth players and cheaper imports are coming in on lower wages/lower fees and the established players (eg Dzeko) have moved on for bigger money? Or is there something else going on?

Like I say, a hell of an achievement as the quality does not appear to have diminished in the process.

haha, had a closer look at the original report, because i found that strange, too. That was some misinterpretation by the paper i read. never trust the press. Sorry for that. It´s not 37 % of overall costs, but of overall revenues, which then simply means that revenues are growing faster than wages of players. (revenues last 4 years +21,4 %, costs for players+coaches last 4 years + 16,1 %)

Cheers! I thought it seemed too good to be true. Was almost phoning the Bundesliga chiefs to see what their secret is! :)

Certainly looks as though it's good times ahead for that league then with that kind of revenue growth.

 

[LoveCity]

Forget Lewandowski, Fergie's next target from Dortmund will surely be Blaszczykowski after that dive to win a penalty (which he scored)... defender barely touched him before he threw himself down.

Edit: Mind you, nothing dodgy about his second goal, Gotze is just too good. Dortmund play some sumptuous football, I find it more entertaining than Barca personally as it's more varied and direct.