Bundesliga review

[Bembeltown]

"Now Hoffenheim is finally in the relegation zone"

That was the best part of yesterday afternoon...
The scum is finally where they belong and lets hope they stay down there till the end of the season and disappear back into the 3rd or 4th division.

One can dream at least! :)

Fuckers didnt even manage to sell out the away end, horrible set of fans considering the distance between Frankfurt and Hoppenheim.

Anyway...."Wiese ist ne Frau!"

 

[Deleted member 52846]

Godly.

[bigimg]http://i.imgur.com/aP9p6vb.jpg[/bigimg]

It's a ground I want to visit just to witness that.

I'll never forget their away fans at te Etihad. I found keep looking at them, the constant chanting and incredible atmosphere. Their football wasn't bad either ;)

Gotze and Blas(pole) are the players in that outfit that I'd crave. If Gotze is too much it'd be great to get the pole. Silva on left side and the pole on the right.

Sahins on, looking forward to seeing him at home.

For me it's Reus, he's a magic player!

 

[Ruhr]

Borussia Dortmund 3-0 1.FC Nürnberg. att. 80,100
1:0 Blaszczykowski (18.), 2:0 Blaszczykowski (21.), 3:0 Lewandowski (88.)
At least the 250 Schalke fans supporting their Nürnberg friends had a party

Eintracht Frankfurt 2-1 TSG Hoffenheim att. 38,100
1:0 Lanig (35.), 1:1 Volland (65.), 2:1 Aigner (67.)
Now Hoffenheim is finally in the relegation zone

FC Augsburg 0-0 Schalke 04 att. 28,553
FCA should have won this

Borussia M´gladbach 2-1 Fortuna Düsseldorf att.50,315
1:0 Juanan (6., og), 2:0 Herrmann (14.), 2:1 Schahin (50.)
Fortuna a sleeping beauty in the first 15 minutes of the small Rhine derby

Greuther Fürth 0-3 Mainz 05 att.14,425
0:1 Szalai (53.), 0:2 Malli (65.), 0:3 Szalai (84.)
Greuther Fürth with 9 points. They still need one point to beat the worst Bundesliga club of all times, Tasmania Berlin (10 points in 1966)

Hannover 96 2-1 VfL Wolfsburg att. 38.800
1:0 Abdellaoue (3.), 2:0 Diouf (38.), 2:1 Madlung (46.)
A red card for 96 after 34 minutes, still they won the small lower saxony derby

SC Freiburg 0-0 Bayer Leverkusen att.22,500
Freiburg with a brilliant season so far

Hamburger SV 3-2 Werder Bremen att. 54,578
0:1 Lukimya (9.), 1:1 Son (23.), 2:1 Aogo (46.), 3:1 Rudnevs (52.), 3:2 Sokratis (54.)
The North Derby: still big, but not for the top of the Bundesliga

VFB Stuttgart 0-2 Bayern München att.60.000
0:1 Mandzukic (50.), 0:2 Thomas Müller (72.)
Stuttgart as always: No chance vs. Bayern

1 FC Bayern 48 48:7
2 Bay.Leverkusen 37 36:23
3 Bor.Dortmund 36 43:20

4 Etr.Frankfurt 33 36:31

5 FSV Mainz 05 30 27:21
6 FC Schalke 04 29 32:29

7 Bor.M'gladbach 29 27:27
8 SC Freiburg 28 24:18
9 Hamburger SV 28 22:24
10 Hannover 96 26 38:37
11 VfB Stuttgart 25 21:32
12 Werder Bremen 22 30:37
13 VfL Wolfsburg 22 20:29
14 Düsseldorf 21 23:27
15 1.FC Nürnberg 21 18:26

16 FC Augsburg 13 15:31

17 Hoffenheim 13 24:43
18 Greuther Fürth 9 11:33

 

[Innsbruckblue]

"Now Hoffenheim is finally in the relegation zone"

That was the best part of yesterday afternoon...
The scum is finally where they belong and lets hope they stay down there till the end of the season and disappear back into the 3rd or 4th division.

One can dream at least! :)

Fuckers didnt even manage to sell out the away end, horrible set of fans considering the distance between Frankfurt and Hoppenheim.

Anyway...."Wiese ist ne Frau!"

May I ask what you feel is wrong about Hoffenheim?

 

[Maldeika]

"Now Hoffenheim is finally in the relegation zone"

That was the best part of yesterday afternoon...
The scum is finally where they belong and lets hope they stay down there till the end of the season and disappear back into the 3rd or 4th division.

One can dream at least! :)

Fuckers didnt even manage to sell out the away end, horrible set of fans considering the distance between Frankfurt and Hoppenheim.

Anyway...."Wiese ist ne Frau!"

May I ask what you feel is wrong about Hoffenheim?

They have a couple of really good technical players, a lot of young players - but never got defensive issues to run.

And - the team is probably not made for a relegation fight.

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Today there has been an article in the FAZ - one of the better newspapers in Germany - about the financial numbers of Bayern for the mid of the year.

- Bayern is already profitable by the end of january for this business year/season (from july 2012 till june 2013)
- income from the first half year already covers all costs for the whole season
- merchandising record revenue of 57,4 Mio (+30% year over year) last season will see another rise "as the business is running even better" according to Rummenigge and which is currently already at 57,8 Mio
- sponsoring money is up by 10 Mio from 85 Mio from last season

prognosis: Bayern might reach the 400 Mio revenue mark first time ever
Could even be that they get very close or overtake ManU if they have a very good year in the competitions.

 

[Ruhr]

"Now Hoffenheim is finally in the relegation zone"

That was the best part of yesterday afternoon...
The scum is finally where they belong and lets hope they stay down there till the end of the season and disappear back into the 3rd or 4th division.

One can dream at least! :)

Fuckers didnt even manage to sell out the away end, horrible set of fans considering the distance between Frankfurt and Hoppenheim.

Anyway...."Wiese ist ne Frau!"

May I ask what you feel is wrong about Hoffenheim?

They have a couple of really good technical players, a lot of young players - but never got defensive issues to run.

And - the team is probably not made for a relegation fight.

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I think, he wanted to know, why everyone hates Hoffenheim

 

[Maldeika]

May I ask what you feel is wrong about Hoffenheim?

They have a couple of really good technical players, a lot of young players - but never got defensive issues to run.

And - the team is probably not made for a relegation fight.

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I think, he wanted to know, why everyone hates Hoffenheim

I don't - even if I like teams more that have a grown history. Like the most I would like it much more if a team like Augsburg stays in the Bundesliga and Hoffenheim would make the step down in the second Bundesliga.

But the story somehow is known. Hoffenheim is a small town in nowhere and had a small football club somewhere in the nowhere until one of the founders of SAP Dietmar Hopp started financing the club in about 1990 and brought it from 7th or 8th league into the Bundesliga. It just is a model that is not accepted in Germany even if it might be more acceptable in England.

 

[Bembeltown]

"Now Hoffenheim is finally in the relegation zone"

That was the best part of yesterday afternoon...
The scum is finally where they belong and lets hope they stay down there till the end of the season and disappear back into the 3rd or 4th division.

One can dream at least! :)

Fuckers didnt even manage to sell out the away end, horrible set of fans considering the distance between Frankfurt and Hoppenheim.

Anyway...."Wiese ist ne Frau!"

May I ask what you feel is wrong about Hoffenheim?

As Maldeika already wrote its an artifical club with artifical fans that is just in the top tier due to a sugar daddy. As regular readers of this thread might already know this concept is despised by the majority of fans in Germany (I know that it is a different topic in England and especially at City).

But yeah...imagine City beeing stuck in the championship or even lower while a sponsor picks Didsbury FC as his new project and infuses money into them until they play in the PL.
So all of a sudden a club no one cared about and which has no fanbase at all is playing in the PL, while City as a club with proper fanbase and history struggles to survive in the championship.

Thats sort of how the likes of Karlsruher SC, Waldhof Mannheim, Kaiserslautern etc feel right now...

When Dortmund played in Hoffenheim a couple of years back the club (even though they never officially admited it) tried to drown out Dortmund fans by implementing speakers below the away section. So whenever Dortmund fans tried to start "hating" on Hopp and Hoffenheim they where exposed to the sort of sound you hear when you got back coupling.

Some video from pregame:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVZFQUiu-70" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVZFQUiu-70</a>

 

[Innsbruckblue]

As Maldeika already wrote its an artifical club with artifical fans that is just in the top tier due to a sugar daddy. As regular readers of this thread might already know this concept is despised by the majority of fans in Germany (I know that it is a different topic in England and especially at City).

But yeah...imagine City beeing stuck in the championship or even lower while a sponsor picks Didsbury FC as his new project and infuses money into them until they play in the PL.
So all of a sudden a club no one cared about and which has no fanbase at all is playing in the PL, while City as a club with proper fanbase and history struggles to survive in the championship.

Thats sort of how the likes of Karlsruher SC, Waldhof Mannheim, Kaiserslautern etc feel right now...

When Dortmund played in Hoffenheim a couple of years back the club (even though they never officially admited it) tried to drown out Dortmund fans by implementing speakers below the away section. So whenever Dortmund fans tried to start "hating" on Hopp and Hoffenheim they where exposed to the sort of sound you hear when you got back coupling.

Some video from pregame:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVZFQUiu-70" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVZFQUiu-70</a>[/quote]

I appreciate your sentiments and hear the same from German friends here in Leipzig. However, I can't agree with the hatred for the club. If people like Hopp didn't follow their dreams of making their hometown team good, we'd be left with the same teams at the top forever. And if TSG Hoffenheim is an artificial club (founded 1899) with artificial fans, what does that make any of the clubs founded in the GDR? For example, Dynamo Dresden, RW Erfurt? Doesn't that make Kaiserslautern and Augsburg artificial, too? Both clubs were formed via mergers, quite a common practice in German football. In my opinion, Hopp had a dream that has come true, just like the owners of every other football club. There was once a time when FC Bayern was a small club, as were FSV Mainz, etc. But because they've been established in the Bundesliga for years, it's ok. But when a new club comes along, it's not. Crazy logic. And for a nation full of logical people, I can't quite fathom this one out.
You probably disagree with RB Leipzig too?

 

[Dzeko's Right Boot]

I believe there is also some resentment held towards Leverkusen too. Have they been aided by large investment like Salzburg and Hoffenheim?